On 15 Feb 2006, at 16:31, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 15:56 +0000, James Strachan wrote:
Dims & Sanjiva
Given your arguments that the Sybase BPEL donation should be in a new
podling rather than part of ServiceMix - I wonder if you'd like to
join us in the ODE proposal then we can have a united Apache
community with folks from Agila, Geronimo, ServiceMix, & WS involved
to insure plenty of cross pollination.
Wow I feel "special" to get asked liked this ;-).
I was going to ask to join anyway .. so I'll be happy to.
Great! :)
However, I
would like to request some changes:
- Under warning signs, in the "Homogenous developers" category it
lists
developers from Sybase, IBM & LogicBlaze. Is it the case that the
*current* codebase has contribs from all these companies? If not I
believe the spirit of the question is about the current codebase, not
about the group that'll get it thru incubation. So please indicate who
wrote the current codebase (which I believe is all Synbase).
Good point - fixed.
- The initial committers list is very long. I'm on service-mix dev
and I
see only 2-3 people committing
Have you tried looking at the SVN logs? The codebase has only been in
the incubator for 2 months and 12 folks have been hacking the code
furiously (and we're still waiting for karma for a couple more
committers).
(and little or no discussion; am I
missing some stuff??).
Maybe you're email filters are hiding email? There's a fair amount of
discussion...
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/geronimo-servicemix-dev/
200602.mbox/thread
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/geronimo-servicemix-dev/
200601.mbox/thread
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/geronimo-servicemix-dev/
200512.mbox/thread
There's plenty of background chatter on IRC too if you need more chat
(though important decisions and votes always take place via email)
Can we try to list people who are really going to
write code for this? It doesn't make sense to list *23* committers
unless they will really write code.
They will.
We can always bring people on board
as they start contributing. If all these people are really so hot to
mess with a BPEL impl, damn, I should feel really good about BPEL ;-).
You should as they are. The people listed who are servicemix
committers have committed substantial code already to ServiceMix and
are keen to work on the integration of BPEL + ServiceMix along with
enhancing the core BPEL engine (such as the management & persistence
piece). The Sybase folks wrote the original code and the Agila
committer is the guy who wrote all the BPEL code in Agila - so far
I'm happy with the committer list.
- Given the, um, strong feelings expressed by so many people about
this
project, how about if we get the Incubator PMC to sponsor this
poddling?
Why does the sponsor PMC make any difference to whether the BPEL
engine goes top level or not? e.g. Tuscany is sponsored by WS and is
gonna be a TLP?
Given the Geronimo PMC did vote to accept the patch into ServiceMix
(though given the general sentiment to use a separate podling we've
backed off), we'd rather stick to the same sponsor PMC for the moment.
James
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