Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
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Good info, thanks! The relationship (committers == PPMC) seems
reasonable to me, especially in light of the current discussion
of releases.

Martin


Martin Sebor wrote:

I thought every committer's vote counted as binding.


Grey-area time here..  In projects where committers == PMC,
that's the case.  The confusion probably has its origins
in the HTTP server project back before there *was* an ASF
or PMCs.  There were just committers and non-committers.

Over time, and I'm sure Roy can/will give history and point
to a specific document, but the answer now is that because
of the structure and formal/legal incorporated nature of
the ASF, only PMCer votes are binding.  Projects that
treat non-PMCer's votes as binding are mistaken; Roy has
the chapter and verse.


I also thought that not every committer was necessarily a PPMC member.


Correct, and that's another area of confusion and contention.
Some people think that for TLP, committers should == PMC, and
for podlings committers should == PPMC.  But not everyone
feels that way.

Personally, I think that if you trust someone to the extent
of giving hir direct access to the repositories, you should
also trust hir to be part of the PMC (such as having a
binding vote, being able to vote on other potential
committers, et cetera).  To put it another way, s/he has
earned merit sufficient to get repository karma.  Why
should s/he have to earn *more* merit to be on the PMC?
And how would that merit be earned?
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