Here's another starter installment for the "Incubator Guidelines Documentation" project Noel posted at
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200512.mbox/[EMAIL 
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Several times during derby's incubation I felt disoriented because while there's a lot of info on the incubator site, I didn't seem to always find what I needed as a completely new podling committer.

Below is a first shot at providing a succinct Getting Started that points complete newbies to resources already on the incubator site and fills in a few holes.

For those of you currently in incubation, does this help? Or would it have helped when you first started. :-) What more would help?

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Getting Started: Podling Committer
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Welcome! Your general committer role is described at http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Committers , but here's more information to help you get started.

(1) Mailing lists

    - Subscribe to the user, dev, and commit lists for your project.

    - Become aware of what else is going on in the Incubator by
subscribing to the general@incubator.apache.org list described at http://incubator.apache.org/howtoparticipate.html#Mailing+lists

    - Become aware of what else is going on at the ASF by
      subscribing to the Apache-wide lists described at
      http://incubator.apache.org/learn/mailing-lists.html
      (Note: we should add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to this list.)

(2) Project web site
+ How to get your project web site going is documented at http://incubator.apache.org/howtoparticipate.html#Project+Website+Howto
    + Post any questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(3) Committer Resources
    + Browse the pages at http://www.apache.org/dev/ often.

    + Subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then raise awareness
      on your project on what goes on behind the scenes.

      Be proactive about responding to infrastructure issues on your
      project mailing lists. Does the web server seem to be down? Is
      Jira or Subversion down? Check the status at
      http://monitoring.apache.org/status/ and report back to your list.

(4) Podling PMC (PPMC)
    If you are a member of your PPMC, become familiar with the
Incubation Policy at http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html .
    You'll likely participate in the following:
    + Update the podling status on the Incubator site:
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/website.html#Edit+your+project+status+report
    + Add new committers to your project:
      http://incubator.apache.org/learn/newcommitters.html
    + Make sure that a quarterly report is submitted when the
      Incubator PMC Chair requests it.
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end draft
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OK, this is pretty thin so far, but should give the idea of what I'm shooting for.

I think this information should go in one of these places:

   http://incubator.apache.org/learn/
   http://incubator.apache.org/guides/

It shouldn't be buried deep in a subpage, nor should it be on a page that is already busy. http://incubator.apache.org/howtoparticipate.html is borderline too busy and covers more than this one role.

comments? feedback?

thanks,

 -jean




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