On Jan 11, 2006, at 6:28 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
[ -1 ] - Any proposal should hit [EMAIL PROTECTED] first, No PR
before that.
[ -1 ] - Any PR should be vetted by PRC, No Excuses.
If this includes blogging about it (which recently was an issue) then
it won't work, regardless of what we want. This is addressing a real
problem, but is not an enforceable option unless we know what PR
means, and "No Excuses" is insufficient as it implies any
communication with the public, which simply won't work.
A bad solution to a problem is not a solution and creates barriers to
a good solution.
[ -0 ] - Any new proposal should have 3 ASF Members / Officers as
mentors
(without regard to affiliation)
Current ASF projects which have less than that now. A mentor who
isn't a contributor is probably a bad idea, so what does it say if
current projects fail incubator requirements?
[ -1 ] - Any new proposal should list at least one person as a
infrastructure volunteer.
Nice in theory, not doable in practice. Should be strongly encouraged
to help with infrastructure, but no way it should be a requirement.
[ -1 ] - A sponsoring PMC should hold their VOTE to sponsor a
proposal or
IP Clearance 72 hours *AFTER* it is posted on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PMC sponsors projects to the incubator. Let the PMC talk it over
ahead of time and decide on a course of action.
[ -0 ] - Any existing committer from any Apache project should be
able to
volunteer to work on the proposed project within the 72 hours. Any
later, it would be through regular karma process. (To promote
inclusion/diversification from day one)
I think this is a bad solution to a real problem. I don't have a
better solution at the moment.
[ -1 ] - IP Clearance needs to be preceded by a proposal posted to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as well
A PMC isn't allowed to discuss wanting to bring code in?
[ +1 ] - IP Clearance has to be OK'ed by Incubator PMC VOTE (before
code
gets checked in to a sponsoring project's SVN)
Isn't this required now?
[ -1 ] - Petition the Board to require Incubator PMC VOTE to begin
incubation process even for projects that other PMC's want to sponsor.
This removes the ability for PMC's to bring code in. Where do we draw
the line between code donations and patches?
[ -1 ] - Within 72 hours of a new project hitting the
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailing list, that any incubator PMC member can call for an advisory
vote and comment period if they see issues with what's been presented
by the sponsoring PMC.
They can do this now, how is it a change?
-Brian
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