On 12/31/2005 1:12 PM, Craig L Russell wrote:

I haven't been involved in any history here, so please forgive my naivete.

I think I understand the rationale for developing spec jars here at Apache. Please correct me if I'm wrong. In order to use a spec jar from the JCP, you have to click a license every time you download it. And this can be a real usability problem if every user of a project needs to manually download just to click a license that they don't read anyway (oops, gotta stop that).

It seems like a real waste of energy to have more than one spec jar in Apache per spec. Bygones. Whether this was accidental or intentional, it seems that we mostly need to agree on where the jars live and make sure that everyone knows where that is.

So if I'm interested in using the Servlet 2.3 jar, which project does this live in, and who manages it? I'd think that a well-known directory might be just the thing. Perhaps a TLP responsible to track where the JCP spec jars are being developed? [It might be that Jakarta is the right TLP.] And a pointer to the repository where the spec jars can be downloaded (automatically, maven-style). And some common naming scheme that everyone agrees on. I doubt that there is enough in common among the spec jar developers to build a community around "spec jars". But certainly there is a community among the developers of Servlet and a different community among the developers of JDO and a different community for MyFaces, etc.

So it sounds straightforward to me to establish a TLP to house a "directory" of the spec jars and which projects they belong to and where the binaries reside.


Craig, you hit the nail on the head with this. I am running into this now. The impetus for my attempting to start this is that I currently have to go on an easter egg hunt for spec jars. I have no strong feelings how the jars get into a central place for me to find them so long as they are in a central place. That central place cannot be the JCP web site.


Regards,
Alan




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