On 12/25/2005 6:03 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:

On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 13:00 -0700, Martin Sebor wrote:
Don't do a press release. An incubating project is not officially part of the ASF, and a press release will imply that the project is part of the ASF. This one really makes ASF members angry, so don't go here.
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Press releases are a means for companies to announce noteworthy
events to the public.
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Don't "just" print some t-shirts with the ASF logo or the incubating project's logo. See "Don't do a press release" for reasons.
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I see nothing wrong with printing T-shirts or other promotional
items as long as their design is approved by the ASF.

I disagree on both counts - while going thru incubation it is important
to recognize that a project is *not* part of the ASF until it completes
incubation. If we allow people to do press releases, print t-shirts and
coffee mugs etc., then the rest of the world has no way to distinguish
between a real ASF project and an incubating one.
We don't allow code releases from the incubator except with carefully
minted words. Given we can't do that with t-shirts, its best to just say
no. Press releases could have the disclaimer text- but the reality is
that when the story gets carried by various folks they drop that stuff-
the story simply isn't powerful enough with a disclaimer. So we end up
losing.

So I agree with Dain's proposals!

These reflect my sentiments as well.


Regards,
Alan


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