On Saturday 24 December 2005 12:51, Sergey Vladimirov wrote:
> No, the project was not retired. It was "suspended" due to none of
> commiters were available.
>
> We would like to stay as Apache Incubator Project for some time (and move
> from Incubator), but we have problems which cann't be solved by ourselfs -
> we haven't access to svn, for site, etc.

Yes, I know this.

The problem is roughly like this;

 1. Mentor is AWOL.
 2. PPMC is defunct.
 3. Committers are not really present.
 4. Active/interested parties are not ASF committers.
 5. Paul apparently tried to make you guys committers, but without following
    proper procedure and "kicking the can" at infrastructure@, this have
    possibly falling through the cracks.
 6. The Incubator PMC *should* intervene, and *either* terminate the
    incubation, *or* revive it by admitting you and Niklas to work on it with
    a new and more active mentor. The latter is somewhat irregular for ASF,
    but personally I think this is an irregular situation.



Cheers
Niclas

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