On Friday 02 September 2005 10:28, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> Several people on WS-PMC offered to help infra. They were turned down
> as they are not members.
This has been my impression as well.
infra@ is begging for help, but seems to have problem with;
a. only members allowed in for the stuff that each projects
PMC Chair can't do already.
b. requesting people without access to help out on answering
questions, which more often than not, requires peeks into
files that such volunteer doesn't have access to, or to
places that may or may not be documented.
Leo,
There are three ways to ease the burden on infra team, and I think all are
wanted;
1. reduction of requests coming into infra@ (this thread covers that),
2. more hands to help out,
3. more tools to automate.
I am specially curious of what can be done about 3.
ASF consists of (allegedly) more than a 1000 committers. How hard could it be
to find a couple that are capable of putting this in place? Very. Since only
members are allowed in, they are busy elsewhere and infra team has no time to
extract all the details for someone to implement these independently, or so
it seems.
Now, I have suggested before, and still do, that infra starts/becomes a
standard ASF project, source code, site, jira, wiki, dev mailing list and all
the normal setup, including ordinary committers and contributors. Infra
places the requests of tools to be made into the Jira there and let evolution
take over.
In my book, it shouldn't be too hard to create web forms for every type of
recurring infrastructure request, make such forms available to the
committers/members/PMC chairs and have them do all the "work" and infra team
only needs a "Execute" button after reviewing the details and some type of
verification that this is to be done.
As for more hands, I think the infrastructure team needs to compile a list of
what committers, members and root must do. Once you have identified work that
"committers" can do, members should volunteer higher up the ladder, and
likewise for roots.
Cheers
Niclas
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