--On September 1, 2005 11:32:49 AM -0400 Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The problem is that, up until the Incubator, there was relatively little oversight on new and incoming projects, at least in how they entered the ASF. Certainly the board could not keep track, and PMCs would occasionally not keep the board up to date. You then add in the fact that some of those projects had no concept of what the ASF was about, etc,... and it was a non-optimal situation. The Incubator was designed to be a funnel and a clearinghouse for new projects; yes, for the legal aspects, yes to ensure that the community grows and develops as it should, but also, I feel, to look at projects and see how they fit; to basically be the eyes and ears of the board with respect to these new projects. Now certainly having a PMC sponsor a project says a great deal and the Incubator does, and should, know that that approval carries a lot of weight. But again, I don't feel it is unreasonable for the Incubator also formally accept a podling, via some mechanism.
+1.
To be blunt, the PMC is worried about the PMC alone; the Incubator is concerned about the ASF in general. Once in a rare while, the 2 might have conflicts.
The Incubator PMC may also be aware of issues that the other PMC is not cognizant of.
Lets be even more blunt. Once a podling is accepted into the Incubator, it is awarded almost instant credibility. Basically, it is using the Apache name and the Apache brand. Certainly the Incubator should ensure that any podling doesn't abuse that, and it should also ensure that the proposal and podling isn't just an avenue for creating instant buzz and instant credibility, for the benefit of the podling 1st and the ASF secondly (or less). The board has said many times, concerning growth, that when the brakes need to be applied, the Incubator would be the 1st entity to feel it, or want it. They are the canary in the coal mine.
+1. -- justin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
