Hi everyone, anything to say to this?
positive feedback - negative feedback - acceptance - tolerance - etc... anyone fancying being the mentor for this hopefully thriving subproject of MyFaces? regards, Martin On 8/19/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dooh! > > after looking it up again, the mentors need to be Apache members as > well. Ok, so this project will be searching for mentors to steer it > into the right direction. Forget the mentor suggestions in this > proposal, then... > > It would still be interesting to know if Manfred Geiler may be the > champion of this proposal or not. > > regards, > > Martin > > On 8/19/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just to let you know: > > > > the MyFaces PMC has positively voted on accepting a Tobago subproject > > on successful incubation. > > > > a question is if Manfred Geiler as being MyFaces PMC Chair (and > > therefore Apache VP) can be champion for the new subproject, not being > > an Apache member? Ted Husted suggested this as a potential solution... > > > > regards, > > > > Martin > > > > On 8/18/05, Arvid Hülsebus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Proposal for new sub-project Tobago (of MyFaces) > > > > > > 18th August 2005, the Tobago Team (contributions by: Udo Schnurpfeil, > > > Volker > > > Weber, Philippe Hennes, Arvid Hülsebus, Bernd Bohmann, Detlef Bartetzko) > > > > > > (0) Rational > > > > > > The goal of Tobago is to provide the community with a well designed set > > > of user > > > interface components based on JSF and run on MyFaces. > > > > > > Tobago is more than just a tag library. The following statements > > > characterize > > > Tobago and makes it different from other frameworks: > > > > > > The focus of Tobago is to create business applications without the need > > > for HTML > > > design. The development of Tobago pages follows more the development of > > > conventional user interfaces than the creation of web pages. > > > > > > The UI components are abstracted from HTML and any layout information > > > that does > > > not belong to the general page structure. The final output format is > > > determined > > > by the client/user-agent. > > > > > > A theming mechanism makes it easy to change the look and feel and to > > > provide > > > special implementations for certain browsers. A fallback solution > > > ensures that > > > as much code is reused for new themes as possible. > > > > > > A layout manager is used to arrange the components automatically. This > > > means, no > > > manual layouting with HTML tables or other constructs is needed. > > > > > > A life demo can be found here: http://tobago.atanion.net > > > > > > The development of Tobago started in 2002. > > > > > > (0.1) Criteria > > > > > > Meritocracy > > > > > > The Tobago project will be meritocratic. The project will therefore > > > follow the > > > guidelines of the Apache Foundation. > > > > > > We use defined roles and responsibilities like contributors and commiters. > > > > > > We believe in teamwork and in the consens brought by discussions that > > > are done > > > on a mailing list. Votings will establish the final 'will' of the > > > community. > > > > > > Community > > > > > > We believe that Tobago will attract a stable community sufficient in > > > size. All > > > MyFaces users/developers are potential Tobago users/developers. Tobago > > > will make > > > MyFaces even more attractive. > > > > > > Core Developers: > > > > > > Tobago was mainly developed by six employees of Atanion while working (if > > > applicable) and in spare time. However, at the moment two of them could be > > > counted as real experts or core developers and the others have a good > > > knowledge > > > of the project. > > > > > > All developers will file the Contribution License Agreement. Atanion > > > GmbH will > > > file the Corporate Contribution License Agreement. > > > > > > Two PMC members from the MyFaces project also want to become Tobago > > > committers: > > > Martin Marinschek and Matthias Wessendorf (both PMCs Myfaces). > > > > > > Alignment: > > > > > > Tobago is a framework built on top of JSF and therefore works well with > > > MyFaces. > > > The project makes use of several Apache libraries like Commons, Taglibs > > > and Ant. > > > > > > (0.2) Warning signs > > > > > > Orphaned products: > > > > > > All active developers would like to become Tobago Committers or PMC > > > members and > > > plan to remain active in the project. > > > > > > Inexperience with open source: > > > > > > The current Tobago developers have experience with open source projects. > > > However > > > in the past this was restricted by using open source projects and > > > participating > > > on there mailing lists. No active development was done. > > > > > > Martin Marinschek and Matthias Wessendorf do have a lot of experience > > > with open > > > source. > > > > > > Homogenous developers: > > > > > > From scratch the project will start with six developers of one company > > > and two > > > additional developers from other companies. We hope to attract more > > > individual developers soon. > > > > > > Reliance on salaried developers: > > > > > > Tobago was developed in working and spare time and does not rely on > > > salaried > > > developers. However Atanion will support the project in the future by > > > dedicating > > > 'work time' to Tobago. > > > > > > No ties to other Apache products: > > > > > > Tobago makes excessive use of serveral components of the Jakarta > > > Commons. It is > > > developed on the Tomcat JSP/Servlet container. (However it runs also on > > > other > > > containers.) Tobago is the ideal addition for MyFaces. > > > > > > A fascination with the Apache brand: > > > > > > We respect and admire the work done by the Apache Foundation. Various open > > > source projects of the foundation have saved us an almost unlimited > > > amount of > > > development time or money in case of not using commercial products. We > > > want to > > > give something back to the community and become part of it. > > > > > > (1) Scope of subprojects > > > > > > As mentioned above Tobago is the ideal addition for MyFaces. Therefore > > > we prefer to > > > become a subproject of MyFaces. > > > > > > (2) Initial source > > > > > > The source code can be found under: > > > > > > http://www.atanion.net/repos/asf/tobago/trunk/ > > > > > > The source code is provided under the Apache License, version 2.0. > > > > > > A precompiled WAR for the demo can be found at: > > > > > > http://www.atanion.com/tobago/tobago-example-demo.war > > > > > > (3) ASF resource to be created > > > > > > (3.1) Mailling-list > > > > > > At the moment the existing mailing lists of the MyFaces project should be > > > sufficient to discuss and announce Tobago topics. If not, we need the > > > following > > > lists: > > > > > > * tobago-dev > > > * tobago-user > > > * tobago-pmc > > > > > > (3.2) Subversion > > > > > > A subversion repository with one module 'incubator-tobago'. > > > > > > (3.3) Issue tracking > > > > > > At the moment the MyFaces JIRA module could be used. > > > > > > (4) initial set of committers > > > > > > (4.1) Already ASF committers > > > > > > * Martin Marinschek, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PMC MyFaces) > > > * Matthias Wessendorf, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PMC MyFaces) > > > > > > (4.2) Other committers > > > > > > * Udo Schnurpfeil, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > * Volker Weber, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > * Philippe Hennes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > * Arvid Hülsebus, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > * Bernd Bohmann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > * Detlef Bartetzko, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > (5) Apache sponsoring individuals > > > > > > Tobago is sponsored by MyFaces. Mentors are Martin Marinschek and Matthias > > > Wessendorf from the MyFaces project (both PMCs). Champion is potentially > > > Manfred Geiler (MyFaces PMC Chair), if an official (and not a member) of > > > the ASF can be champion. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://www.irian.at > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > JSF Trainings in English and German > > > > > -- > > http://www.irian.at > Your JSF powerhouse - > JSF Trainings in English and German > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Trainings in English and German --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
