Ken expressed concern: > The candidate is now in the position of being privately > blessed but publicly vilified.
And this will differ how from an announcement that someone has been accepted as a Committer, and people who did not participate in the private vote expressing their views anyway? > Or else a pro forma vote As the author who initiated this use of the term pro forma, I am fine to remove the adjective. My thought was that if we've had the discussion in private, the public vote really is pro-forma, since it would not have occurred unless there were a consensus for the positive outcome. Please note that the text did offer either approach as acceptable, and up to each PMC, so I am not entirely sure of the real point of contention. If the PMC prefers one over the other, use it. > non-on-the-PMC committers are probably going to feel > that their votes should count -- but they won't. Nor do they with code, either. Committers should want to be on the PMC. IMO, this is an education issue that needs to be better understood across the ASF, especially as we continue to dismantle the umbrellas that created the issue. We want all new projects to start off with the desired approach. --- Noel --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]