Noel-- I've updated the Beehive status here:
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beehive.html Still have to add project-specific goals. We'll be sure to keep this current going forward. Eddie On 6/5/05, Eddie ONeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Noel-- > > This is a great question -- apologies that it's not more discernable > from the web site. It's unfortunate that it hasn't been updated in a > while...I'll take care of getting it current. > > I'll give my take on our status -- anyone else who has an opinion, > feel free to chime in. > > I believe that Beehive is making good progress toward graduating > from the Incubator. We started out having a good mix of > corporate-sponsored (BEA) and non-sponsored committers and have added > two others over the course of the last 10 months or so. These are: > > Fumitada Hattori (Wolfgang) -- 12/17/2004 > Bryan Che -- 2/7/2005 > > In addition, the pipeline of potential committers is building across > Beehive. I know of non-sponsored individuals working on: > > - Tomcat 5.5 security integration for NetUI Page Flow > - A Maven 2.0 plugin for building Beehive projects > - Documentation of Ant used to build Beehive source artifacts > > I'm quite excited about starting to see this kind of contribution as > one or all of these would put an individual on a path to > committership. And, these are the beginnings of the contributions I'd > expect to see as the community starts to use more stable Beehive > releases. > > The last status report I saw was on 4/26/05: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200504.mbox/[EMAIL > PROTECTED] > > In it, we expressed our intention to push to a 1.0-level release. As > a result of driving toward this, I think we've had fewer design-type > discussion on beehive-dev@ and have been talking more about samples, > nightlies, and other release issues. I agree that there has been a > disproportionate quantity of JIRA mail -- part of this is BEA having > testers looking at Beehive. > > Admittedly, WSM has stagnated a bit since the spring given the time > it's taken to finalize the JSR 181 spec. Once that is public, I hope > we'll be able to have Wolfgang, Ias, and Dims helping with the work to > pass the TCK under the NDA terms Geir has provided. > > Today, we're really done with a 1.0 for Beehive's Controls and NetUI > components. I would personally like to see Beehive get an "official" > 1.0 done (more on this below) in order to further help community > building. One thing that would help would be decoupling WSM from our > release cycle until the TCK work is done (was honestly going to bring > this up on beehive-dev@ tomorrow). Otherwise, Controls and NetUI are > being held up and we're keeping stable software from our potential > community. We've also tabled some design discussions in beehive-dev@ > and in JIRA bugs (for example, around Controls) until the 1.0 is > complete. > > There is definitely interest in approaching other projects like > Struts, MyFaces, Geronimo, HiveMind, Velocity, and Spring to look at > how we can integrate and work together going forward. In driving to > 1.0, I've certainly not been focusing on this but would love to build > a Control container for Geronimo. Definitely more of this sort of > thing to come. :) > > Overall with Community Building -- I think we "get it" now. I'm > definitely committed to being very transparent about design decisions > and code with Beehive going forward and I'm sure others are as well. > It's been a good lesson to learn while in the Incubator. > > As far as an "official" release goes -- I know this isn't generally > possible in the Incubator, so it'd be great if we could discuss our > options. These seem to be to call it 1.0 (and of course still satisfy > the incubation branding requirements). Or, we can start talking about > what steps we need to take in order to graduate Beehive from the > Incubator so that we can do so. Anyone have thoughts on this? > > So, that's where we are...does that help? > > Thoughts / comments / flames welcome. :) > > Eddie > > > On 6/5/05, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is the status of Beehive? > > > > I will preface this by indicating that I was looking to see how Beehive was > > progressing towards leaving the Incubator. So I started out to see if there > > were new committers being considered, new names coming along, or just how > > discussions were occurring, and I'm not seeing any. I do see that the > > project status shows a mix of Committers from multiple vectors (SVN logs > > appear to show two committers added since August 2004, both non-BEA -- not a > > lot, but not nothing), although I have not looked to see how active any > > given Committer has been in the community. > > > > Taking a look at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/beehive.html, it > > appears to need some updating. It doesn't record decisions such as adding > > new committers, although it reflects their presence. Reviewing the > > Quarterly reports for this year, I realize that Beehive has not provided any > > content for them since last Fall. > > > > Reviewing the past several months of archives for beehive-dev, I notice that > > a very high percentage of messages are JIRA notices. Hardly any developer > > discussion appears on the mailing list. Where is it happening? I expected, > > for example, that I might see discussions between beehive, Struts and > > MyFaces developers, considering that one of the challenges for Struts v2 is > > JSF integration, and beehive is also addressing that issue. I do see good > > discussions on beehive-user, but those relate to using beehive, albeit as a > > developer, rather than developing it. > > > > All of this relates to Community Building. What is the perception within > > Beehive? Am I just missing things? > > > > --- Noel > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
