On 17 Oct 2004, at 16:10, Rolf Kulemann wrote:

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I like very much more the approach to send private mail to the source,
too, because maybe the first (or following related) private mails were
misunderstood and talking about that freely would make unnecessary noise
and would invlove people, which again misinterpret it.
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Don't you like the idea?

Nope. What Thorsten describes looks pretty bad IMO, so I want to know what is going on. Otherwise, this shouldn't have been posted at all. No need to keep the dust under the carpet. And if Thorsten doesn't want to go public with it - he should post on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Talking about the issue doesn't have anything to do with forwarding private mails to public/private lists.


(and imagine yourself being an outsider reading this thread: how would
you read it? what would you think of the incubator, or the ASF as a
whole?)

I guess this thread isn't damaging anything, because it's as you say "blue skying" (I prefer the word abstract here). I for myself could imagine that's interesting to outsiders, too, since it shows that we care about such things.

I don't see how speaking factually rather than conceptually would change showing how we care about it.


5.) Engrave sense making options from above somewhere appropriate that
we do not need to discuss it again. This is maybe an incubator task, if
at all.

I will not vote on policy which makes no sense or is based on unproven facts from the past.


I hope my contributions to this thread are not misinterpreted.

I don't think so and they are appreciated. But I'm not sure this will lead us anywhere if Thorsten doesn't speak factually. I've quite had it with the amount of FUD mails making waves on various Apache lists.


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