BTW, I should probably point out that I'm not a member of the 
Incubator PMC, just a guy who's been through this process and 
cares about making it easier.

So, take this as my opinion based on experience and 
interpretation of the policy documents -- not an official 
PMC answer.

Cliff


Cliff Schmidt wrote on Thursday, June 17, 2004 6:01 PM:

> I certainly understand your concern here, Martin.  According to our
> current Incubator policy document
> (http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases%0A),
> for an incubating project to create a release: 
> 
> 1. the release archive MUST contain the word "incubating" in the
> filename; and
> 
> 2. the release archive MUST contain an Incubation disclaimer,
> clearly visible in the main documentation or README file.
> (the disclaimer text can be found at
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Branding%0A).
> 
> With these two basic requirements met, the Incubator PMC must still
> vote to approve the release, but as you can see from the currently
> running vote on the Lenya 1.2 distribution, most PMC members agree
> with the making it easy for new projects to release early and often.
> There's also a structure called a PPMC that will allow one vote to
> cover all project committers plus the Incubator PMC.
> 
> So, while I don't think it could quite be considered "a right", I
> don't think you will have a problem with this if you follow the two
> basic requirements and, of course, ensure that all intellectual
> property in the distribution is properly licensed.
> 
> Should you end up at Apache, I'd be happy to help you with any of
> these release process issues.
> 
> Cliff
> 
> 
> Marinschek Martin wrote on Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:50 PM:
> 
>> Ok, I have started filling out the proposal and requested some help
>> from the other MyFaces-members, maybe we will need some more time to
>> polish it up, but it should be not too bad at the moment; however, I
>> have left out the technical stuff so far.
>> 
>> Another question: The release policy is causing me headaches - as
>> soon as we enter incubation, we are not allowed to release anymore
>> except on "permission"; but our policy has always been to release
>> early and often - what could we do about that, given that incubation
>> time could last for some time and we had two releases (1.0.3 and
>> 1.0.4) last month? Would that permission be a thing we would have to
>> fight for or almost a "granted right" ;) - if we otherwise keep to
>> the rules? If it is not, I am sure there will be some frictions
>> coming up... 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:40 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: Anyone wants to incubate MyFaces?
>> 
>> 
>> Martin,
>> 
>> Please see http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeehiveProposal as a
>> model, and prepare a similar one for MyFaces.  It appears that there
>> is sufficient interest, and I am prepared to call for a vote to
>> incubate it. 
>> 
>> I've created an outline page for you to start:
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MyFacesProposal
>> 
>> Existing ASF Committers interested in participating, please add
>> yourselves down in the sponsoring area, just to register your
>> interest in helping. 
>> 
>>      --- Noel
>> 
>> 
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