Hi Schmidt, I would like to actively participate on this project. I am new to this forum..Just wondering how can I start contributing to it. would you please throw some pointers.
thanks a bunch, Nemi. --- Cliff Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cliff Schmidt wrote on Monday, May 17, 2004 7:30 PM: > > > Noel J. Bergman wrote on Monday, May 17, 2004 6:10 > PM: > <snip/> > >>> Since the project is being proposed as a TLP > with three subprojects, > >>> I've requested that the Board consider this > proposal at their next > >>> meeting. However, it is my understanding that > the proposal should > >>> first be voted on by the Incubator PMC. > >> > >> As I understand it, there is no real need for the > Board to consider > >> it until there is a proposal at the end of > Incubation for it to > >> become a TLP. In the meantime, it is the > Incubator's responsibility. > > > > That's fine with me, but it seems slightly > different from my > > understanding of the outcome of some of the > lengthy incubator > > discussions we had towards the end of the year. > I'll start another > > thread on this, because it's not significant for > this proposal, but > > I do think we should make sure all our docs are > saying the right > > thing. > > I've listed a bunch of history and current docs > below, but I'll > start with my view of the right way to do this: > > I really like the PPMC concept. To get the most out > of a PPMC, > I think the Podling should, if at all possible, know > what TLP > it is destined for or if it is expected to become a > TLP itself. > I think this will help with composing the PPMC with > the right > people, as well as knowing which project's charter > would make > sense to follow...or if the project should start > working on its > own charter (rather than waiting until exiting > incubation). > > Therefore, I suggest that we treat potential TLPs > the same > as all other projects with one exception: the Board > still needs > to vote for the TLP resolution upon exiting > incubation; but that > should be a technicality if all goes well. Like > other projects, > potential TLPs could either start with a Sponsor or > use the > Incubator as a temporary Sponsor (especially since > waiting for > the Board to agree to sponsor means getting tied to > a monthly > meeting schedule). However, shortly after entering > Incubation, > I think it is best if a TLP has gotten the Board to > agree that > it approves of the project as a TLP and expects to > vote for > an applicable resolution upon successful incubation. > ------------------------- > and now, for anyone interested in what our docs > currently > state: > > See the first two paragraphs in Acceptance (to > becoming a > Podling) section of the Process doc: > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html#Acceptance > > and the Proposal section of the Policy document: > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Proposal%0A > > and from > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Sponsor: > "A Sponsor will be one of: > - The Board of the Apache Software Foundation. In > this case, it is > expected that the candidate would become a TLP on > successful > completion of Incubation." > > According to > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html#Currently+Incubating, > Geronimo and SpamAssassin are sponsored by the > "Incubator PMC > for the Board", but AltRMI and Directory do not yet > have > intended homes. (unless I'm misinterpreting > something here) > > Finally, here are a couple relevant posts on this > topic from > last September: > http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgNo=2051 > http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgNo=2052 > > I guess the question is whether TLPs projects should > be voted on > by their Sponsor{ing Entity} *before* entering > Incubator (as I > think is typical for non-TLPs), or *after* > satisfying their > Incubator exit criteria and a vote of the Incubator > PMC, or > possibly *before and after*? > > > Cliff > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]