On Jan 14, 2004, at 6:09 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:


Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:

Eh. I think community doesn't matter at all when the Incubator is
simply performing accountable legal oversight. If a TLP says they want
a codebase from the outside, and we have determined that there are no
legal impediments to that codebase from entering the ASF, then that
should be that...

but that's *not* all it's supposed to be doing. that's the stuff it *must* do for the legal well-being of the asf. for the social well-being, it also is supposed to ensure that people coming in with a new codebase understand how the asf works, how the voting model functions, the release process, peer review, et cetera. one of the reasons the incubator came into existence was because apparently a *lot* of people had become committers withoug any of that ever being made clear. ref the 'why the hell should i want to be an asf member' discussion last year.

Community is important.


I think that there are at least two categories of activity that the Inubator must do :

1) IP Vetting for largish software grants from outside coming into healthy active PMCs, to make sure that the code is unencumbered and properly licensed. I think MerlinDeveloper would be such an example? Or recent additions to Maven?

2) Community establishment for something new, like Geronomio, where you are bootstrapping a project from the ground up, or when bringing in an existing community from outside.

I will agree that my comment was poorly placed, thread-wise, as the thread name has to do w/ what appears to be a #2 situation, bringing in log4microsoft :). However, my intent was to address issue #1, where it is possible for incubator just to preform the legal audit functions.

geir

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Geir Magnusson Jr                                   203-247-1713(m)
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