The discussion on cocoon/incubator PMC lists was about whether the Incubator PMC rather than the receiving PMC or mentors should vote for an incubatee release. Nicola suggested that we should discuss this on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pardon me for eventual context loss. Here it goes:

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Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

The Incubator should try to minimize cross-votes, as they have shown
> in practice to be very confusing and not productive.
>
I don't like this Mentor+Lenya+IncubatorPMC double vote either. The alternative is to have all Lenya committers on the Incubator PMC, but I don't think others are ready to accept it, nor if all the implications of it are clear.

... and I know for a fact that some, if not many Lenya peeps are *not* on any [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, perhaps hinting at a lack of interest in a one-for-all cross-project incubation mailing list, or the centralization of 'power' in the Incubator PMC (that's my interpretation) - I did hear some complaints about 'Incubator lists being noisy and not so helpful' during the Con.

You made a perfectly valid point about the license check around Xopus,
but IMHO, we should require the Lenya peeps to do this themselves, and
try to preserve a sense of trust in the incubation process rather than
having a strict command/control chain.

IMHO, 'any' PMC should be able to sign off a release, even of an
incubatee, perhaps with a 72 hour ACK of the incubator PMC. Apart from
the mentors who are on the Incubator PMC, the Incubator PMC is just not
 involved enough in the process leading to a release candidate in order
to judge whether it can be released. The receiving PMC might be neither
(as my mishap clearly showed), so maybe just a sign-off by the mentors,
possibly backed/vetoed by interested Incubator/receiving PMC peeps,
should be enough as a 'formalization' of the process.

WDYT?

</Steven>
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