Nicola,

> > Would be great if you could have a read through the new version of
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?IncubatorMussings

> Done. It's *very* well writtem :-)

> There is only one point that I have different in my mind and that is
> IIUC addressed there.

> It's about having an "elder" shepherd mentoring the main shepherd, and
> possibly requiring at least two people helping in Incubation.

Berin's document reflects his perspective as a Sponsoring Entity.  As
written by Berin, the Incubator PMC is responsible for "acceptance and
oversight", "guidance and ensuring [application of ASF practices]", and
"regularly evaluating" the podling.  However, the only individual identified
in the document as responsible is the Shephard chosen by the Sponsoring
Entity, and accepted by the Incubator PMC.  There is a check and balance
there.

As someone who has seen multiple incubations, you feel that there is an
expertise related to incubation held by people who have devoted time to
going through this process previously, and you would like to see that
expertise leveraged for the benefit of the podling and the ASF.  If the
Incubator PMC feels, in the course of exercising its duties, that more than
oversight is necessary in a given instance, e.g., that the Shephard could
use some help, there is nothing that prevents the Incubator PMC from taking
that, or other, action to help out.  It is just less formal.

Berin, does that reflect your intent?

        --- Noel


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