Steve,
> From: Stephen McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 1. Entities (Board, Parent, Incubator PMC) should not assigned actional
> responsibilities - only decision responsibility. Actional reposibility
> should be assigned to roles that are represented by accountable
> individuals. There were a couple of places in the document that
> needed to be tightened up in this respect.
Personally Not sure I fully agree with this,
having seen XMLBeans. If the XML Project wants
to have the Incubator take on something on its
behalf, then there is a two way accountability. I
fully believe that the XML Project has to take
some accountability for assisting the podling.
That accountability (in the case of XMLBeans) is
discharged by the Shepherd, who is a member of the
XML PMC, but can call on others in the XML project
for assistance at any time.
Otherwise this is throwing all the responsibility
back on a couple of people. To me the whole
Apache concept is about community, so lets
demonstrate what that means to the podlings.
If Ted stops doing his role as Shepherd, then I
would see it as the responsibility of the XML
project to step in and find someone else.
> My impression is that we are actually aiming towards the same thing but
> that what you thinking of as Sheperd is what I'm thinking of as
> Sponsor. There are a few other little things but I thought it best to
> get these two items clarified first.
>
I think you are correct, that we are heading to
the same end, but I think it important to
separate the sponsor of the original proposal
away from the incubation.
There are people who are visionaries. "I can see
why this is a great project and why it will be
a good fit for Apache". They can help a
candidate "sell" a proposal to Apache. Are they
necessarily the best person to help a project
through Incubation? Not so sure. To me, that's
what the very notion of a shepherd is - someone
who guards and protects the flock. A shepherd
is not necessarily a great sponsor. (Might be,
but I believe it's useful to split the two apart.)
Cheers,
Berin
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