Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:

Stephen McConnell wrote:

I am specific asking this in the context of the incubator policies. If I understand correctly, the policies require project sponsorship by a member and from what member only sheparding. While parhaps with best intent - it is excluding non-members from sponsorship and sheparding of new projects.



correct and by design. part of the purpose of the incubator is to make sure new projects fit into our technical and cultural framework. assigning the mentoring process to a member, who has become a member by virtue of demonstrating knowledge of the framework, makes sense.


But also excludes non-Members irrespective of their technical/culteral affiliation with the subject and Apache.

allowing j random contributor who may or may not have a clear picture
to mentor does *not* make sense, at least not to me.


Nobody is talking about j random. This is a question as to why Membership is a prerequisite. So long as membership is a prerequisite the policies exclude other members of the Apache community from sponsorship or sheperding. They may be strongly associated with a project, perhaps on an existing PMC, maybe a member of the board, and well integrated into the Apache Way, and yet - for some reason, that individial is barred from sponsoring and sheparding a project.


Given a policy that equates to an exclusion of Apache contributors - they needs to be some form of accountability by members towards non-members on matters concerning incubation.



why? the foundation is and is owned by the members, not by the non-members. the members have a perfectly legitimate right to determine what will and will not become part of the foundation.


There are seperate questions here. What will and will not become a part of the foundation should be a decision on the Board (either directly or via a existing PMC). That subject is distinclty different from the subject of discrimination between Members and non-Members relating to sponsoring and sheparding.

Stephen.

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