> From: "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ASF is incorporated. We have certain rules to abide to, like licensing > > et all. And also internal rules, that you know quite well, about voting, > > and about infrastructure policies. > > >
> And see, I don't think you're the person who should be responsible for them > Nicola Ken. I think the XML PMC/Steven should. If they don't have time or > are unable to, then the project should not be under their oversight because > it will be their continuing responsibility. Just because you seal the ship > with turpentine doesn't mean it won't sink later if you never do it again. So couldn't the incubator put the rules in place and then put responsibility for "enforcement" (bad word) onto the PMCs? Maybe the Incubator PMC should actually be made up of representatives of all other (interested?) PMCs so that they can agree that rules/processes that will be common accross all projects? I.e. the Incubator project is tasked with coming up with the process and putting all the necessary support infrastructure in place for incubation, but per-"podling" incubation is the responsibility of the ultimate owner. As a PMC shepherd, the incubator should ensure I have everything I need to do my work and stay in line with the broad Foundation's requirements. One thing I have noticed is that, on the whole, people aren't so interested in the details of the rules, they just want a clear direction to ensure consistency. Take the mailing lists as an example. Their are arguments for and against each option. Can we necessarily make a decision and know that it will be the best in all cases? So couldn't the incubator put something together saying "these approaches are all fine. Here are the advantages of this one, and here is the advantage of this. The owning group/PMC/shepherd/whatever makes the call". That's the best of all worlds. It gives guideance and direction, but doesn't mandate. Cheers, Berin This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]