On 10/07/2003 8:59 Paul Hammant wrote:

Nicola,

Nope.

@see http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/community/mailing-lists.html

No Incubator logo, no @incubator.apache.org mailing lists, no reference to the incubation status.


I stand corrected.

Isn't <cite href="http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/";>Apache Lenya is a Cocoon subproject under incubation.</cite> a fair enough reference? I don't get the core of the problem anymore. While I agree upon the concept of an Incubator, if its main functions are actually carried out by the receiving PMC, I wonder what all the fuzz of mentioning the Incubator is about.


I think the value proposition of the Incubator should be more directed at the receiving PMC and the Foundation, and less at the incubating project. The incubating project primarily interacts with the receiving PMC, which can call upon help to the Incubator. This is about the same way new folks and projects interact with Infrastructure, which requires the PMC to be informed of infrastructure requests. The PMC is the facilitator, and checks whether people actually get an answer. Or that should be the theory, IMHO.

> No need for vote?

These are sparse notes, not a VOTE, man. ;-)

Other before me voted :-)

That wasn't a vote, but fractional enthusiasm. :-)


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