Pete, 

This is a follow-up to your review feedback.  For your major issue, the 
proposal for “alternate ASCII address” in the message 
(https://secure-web.cisco.com/1P5eTKqxXvq3fcg13aFHNqKcvPh6yMCpA_0bCwU6cuxzqRId-u7OTrtrNMlPz-ldfcyeyXrMZPzZf1E6qlzoaH6g2rKUMM5T3cweZ0jQrw3WRv_8yfu1ueci6tHGEdfNggSoybH3k-TXVNGEtwXx5PKd93AECv02QGyXmwpS0lEvUJkllyn7s-D-NL-QTnoJZXRTJ1EHR7e04hYK4IxVbmM16qGiSlTmEPUK8XdaNUXD0Du397IW9o3SGL8f2EyWh/https%3A%2F%2Fmailarchive.ietf.org%2Farch%2Fmsg%2Fregext%2FljIoGJtWaiLv8gw4SsSQVOs0xsM%2F
 ) is to remove the statements from section 5.3.2 since they are associated 
with registrar (client) policy.  This will be incorporated in the -15 draft.  
Below are the proposed statements to be removed for quick reference:

1. Delete "It can be an extra ASCII email address collected by registrar or 
registrar-provided proxy email address." from the fifth bullet in section 5.3.2.
2. Delete “The provided address can be an extra ASCII email address collected 
by registrar or registrar-provided proxy email address." from the last bullet 
in section 5.3.2.  

Does this address your feedback?  If so, can you clear the GENART "On the Right 
Track" status?

Thanks,

-- 
 
JG



James Gould
Fellow Engineer
jgo...@verisign.com 
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703-948-3271
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On 7/26/22, 2:37 PM, "Gould, James" <jgo...@verisign.com> wrote:

    Pete,

    We addressed some of your feedback (Minor issues and Nits/editorial 
comments) in draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai-13 and I responded to your Major issues 
below.  Do the updates made in draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai-13 and the explanation 
for your Major issues address your feedback or is more needed?  There was a 
follow-on thread with John C Klensin, Martin J. Dürst, and Dmitry Belyavsky 
that didn't look to result in any needed changes to the draft.  

    Thanks,

    -- 

    JG



    James Gould
    Fellow Engineer
    jgo...@verisign.com 
<applewebdata://13890C55-AAE8-4BF3-A6CE-B4BA42740803/jgo...@verisign.com>

    703-948-3271
    12061 Bluemont Way
    Reston, VA 20190

    Verisign.com 
<http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Nr_Y45uTJ1KFJh5nTT3LQERh5zMr_ptgIfYOoPxKRHO674hAlBCZbSRvp8Rdl2UodIv9w9Jx9kDlRNejtWciH2BoxpMKmPcCqgJ4euGHQsVDV6pFWt67W9wDHzmZh2hjvGNkmWlFSvwGTpcaDmWzHKF1sUghZyEUIjMLt-o4YfEHLsnyi_pPDnEtyGUtczI_hzGdP0afwa8wX7DVuSGbmttWe_fdgtpunDA_G_5c0CoPvqdTw4XHbQaf5oWkH2QI/http%3A%2F%2Fverisigninc.com%2F>

    On 6/1/22, 4:23 PM, "Gould, James" <jgo...@verisign.com> wrote:

        Pete, 

        Thanks for the review and feedback.  My responses are embedded below 
prefixed with "JG - ".  

        -- 

        JG



        James Gould
        Fellow Engineer
        jgo...@verisign.com 
<applewebdata://13890C55-AAE8-4BF3-A6CE-B4BA42740803/jgo...@verisign.com>

        703-948-3271
        12061 Bluemont Way
        Reston, VA 20190

        Verisign.com 
<http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Nr_Y45uTJ1KFJh5nTT3LQERh5zMr_ptgIfYOoPxKRHO674hAlBCZbSRvp8Rdl2UodIv9w9Jx9kDlRNejtWciH2BoxpMKmPcCqgJ4euGHQsVDV6pFWt67W9wDHzmZh2hjvGNkmWlFSvwGTpcaDmWzHKF1sUghZyEUIjMLt-o4YfEHLsnyi_pPDnEtyGUtczI_hzGdP0afwa8wX7DVuSGbmttWe_fdgtpunDA_G_5c0CoPvqdTw4XHbQaf5oWkH2QI/http%3A%2F%2Fverisigninc.com%2F>

        On 6/1/22, 1:14 PM, "Pete Resnick via Datatracker" <nore...@ietf.org> 
wrote:

            Reviewer: Pete Resnick
            Review result: On the Right Track

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            Document: draft-ietf-regext-epp-eai-10
            Reviewer: Pete Resnick
            Review Date: 2022-06-01
            IETF LC End Date: 2022-06-09
            IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat

            Summary:

            I think this proposal is reasonable, but I don't think enough 
explanation has
            been given regarding the case where one side supports the protocol 
but the
            other side doesn't.

            Major issues:

            The last bullet item in section 5.3.2 talks about "alternative 
ASCII address",
            but I don't see anywhere in the document which defines how to 
provide an
            alternative ASCII address in the data. For example, RFC 5733 
implies that there
            will be only one email address in the Contact Mapping; can an 
implementation
            simply add a second? Does the server then need to distinguish these 
by the
            presence or absence of non-ASCII characters to determine which is 
an EAI and
            which is an alternative ASCII address? At the very least, some 
discussion of
            this seems necessary in the document.

        JG - The reference to the "alternative ASCII email address" is for the 
client (registrar) when it's recognized that the server does not support EAI.  
If the registrar collected an EAI address and an ASCII address, then the ASCII 
address MUST be provided; otherwise, the optional property SHOULD be omitted.  
The use of an ASCII proxy email address can be used as well.  In this case, the 
server does not support EAI addresses, so it's up to the EAI-supporting client 
to handle it.  Most likely the server validates that the address is only an 
ASCII address, but there is no guarantee of it.   

            Minor issues:

            In the bullets in section 5.3.2, there are quite a few SHOULDs with 
no
            explanation of why one might choose to violate these. Why are these 
not MUSTs?
            I can't think of any reason, for example, that the server would not 
validate
            the email property, and it seems like a really bad idea not to.

        JG - I cover each of the SHOULDs below:

        1. For the required email property with a client that doesn't signal 
support for EAI, the server needs to satisfy the negotiated services . This 
should be a MUST to comply with the negotiated namespaces, since the downside 
is that the client will receive an error response with an info command if they 
still don't support EAI in the login services.   The error response is a MUST 
in the third bullet.
        2. For the optional email property falls the same case as the required 
email property, since the info response will result in an error.  It should be 
a MUST as well.  The error response is a MUST in the fourth bullet.


            Nits/editorial comments:

            Abstract: Strike the word "appearing"

        JG - Yes, that can be removed.

            Section 3: Change "By applying the syntax rules of [RFC5322]" to 
"By applying
            the syntax rules of [RFC6532]"

        JG - I'll leave this one for Dmitry to respond to, but changing RFC5322 
to RFC6532 looks correct to me.




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