Thanks, Miguel and Magnus. I will get a revised draft out with the proposed
changes. Thanks.

regards,
suresh
--- Magnus Westerlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Miguel Garcia skrev:
> > Hi Suresh:
> > 
> > Inline comments (only those that deserve a bit more discussion).
> > 
> > /Miguel
> > 
> > Pyda Srisuresh wrote:
> >> Miguel,
> >>
> >> Thank you for the comments. Please see my responses inline.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> suresh
> >>
> >> --- Miguel Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART)
> >>> reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see
> >>> http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html).
> >>>
> >>> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments
> >>> you may receive.
> >>>
> >>> Document: draft-ietf-behave-nat-icmp-05.txt
> >>> Reviewer: Miguel Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> Review Date: 2007-10-09
> >>> IESG LC end date: 2007-10-11
> >>>
> >>> Summary:
> >>>
> >>> Comments:
> > 
> >>> - Section 4.1 discusses the checksum of the payload for TCP and UDP
> >>>    packets that are embeded in ICMP Error messages. What about UDP-lite
> >>>    (RFC 3828) packets with partial checksum coverage? Applying the same
> >>>    rules as for UDP would drop legitimate packets. I think the draft
> >>>    should say what the NAT should do with respect ICMP Error messages
> >>>    that contain UDP-lite packets.
> >>>
> >> [suresh] There are a few things to note here.
> >>
> >> a) REQ-3d is transport protocol agnostic and is stated as follows.
> >> This is
> >> applicable to UDP-lite as well, assuming the NAT device supports
> >> UDP-lite.
> >>
> >>    If the embedded packet contains the entire transport segment,
> >>    and the transport protocol of the embedded packet requires the
> >>    recipient to validate the transport checksum, and the checksum
> >>    fails to validate, drop the error packet.
> >>
> >> b) UDP-Lite is an independent transport protocol with a protocol
> >> identifier of
> >> its own (136). The Behave WG has not dicussed protocols other than TCP
> >> and UDP.
> >> RFC4787 (UDP BEHAVE) does not discuss UDP-lite either.
> >>
> >> So, I dont believe, it woudl be necessary to include specific comment
> >> about
> >> UDP-lite in this document.
> >>
> > 
> > Well, if you think that the checksum validation covers the UDP-lite case
> > with partial checksums, then I would agree that the draft covers the
> > case, and there is no action for the document. In my opinion, it is a
> > hidden from the reader, but that is just my opinion.
> > 
> > I now understand that you don't want to open the can of worms and start
> > considering all the protocols that are encapsulated in ICMP Error messages.
> > 
> 
> I think that we can live with the present text.
> 
> > 
> >>> - Abbreviations should be expanded at the first appearance, e.g., NAT
> >>>    and ICMP in the title, ICMP in the Abstract as well, etc.
> >>
> >> [suresh] OK, I will expand NAT to be "Network Address translator" in
> >> the title.
> >> However, I dont believe, it is necessary to expand on well known terms
> >> like IP
> >> and ICMP.
> >>
> > 
> > Before I wrote this comment I went to the RFC Editor policy web page,
> > http://www.rfc-editor.org/policy.html#policy.abbrevs and I didn't find
> > "ICMP" in the list of accepted abbreviations without expansion. You can
> > try to leave the term unexpanded, then it will be up to the RFC editor
> > to decide.
> > 
> 
> I would leave the title and expand it in the abstract.
> 
> I expect an updated draft before progressing this.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Magnus Westerlund
> 
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