Hi Prathap,

Could you elaborate on why you think this line is causing problems. It sounds 
like you are suggesting this line is too restrictive?

It simply enforces a minimum col-to-col timing, there could still be other 
constraints that are more restrictive.

Andreas

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Hi Andreas,

To be more precise, I believe the below code snippet in doDRAMAccess(), should 
be called only  for the Row Hit request. For a Row Miss request why do we have 
to update the bank.colAllowedAt for all the Banks?

// update the time for the next read/write burst for each


     // bank (add a max with tCCD/tCCD_L here)

     ranks[j]->banks[i].colAllowedAt = std::max(cmd_at + 
cmd_dly,ranks[j]->banks[i].colAllowedAt)


Thanks,

Prathap


On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Prathap Kolakkampadath 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Andreas,

As you said all the act-act are taken in to account.
All col-to-col is taken in to account except, if there is a open request(Hit) 
after a closed request(Miss).
If i am using FCFS scheduler, and there are two requests in the queue Request1 
and Request2 like below, according
to the current implementation CAS of Request2 is only issued after CAS of 
Request1.  Is that correct?
I don't see in doDramAccess(), where the CAS of second request is updated ahead 
of CAS of first request.

Request1@Bank1 (PRE-ACT-CAS) --> Request2@Bank2 (CAS)

Could you please clarify?

I will also take a look into the util/dram_sweep_plot.py.

Thanks,
Prathap

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Andreas Hansson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Prathap,

All the col-to-col, act-to-act etc are taken into account, just not command-bus 
contention. Have a look at util/dram_sweep_plot.py for a graphical “test bench” 
for the DRAM controller. As you will see, it never exceeds the theoretical max. 
This script relies on the configs/dram/sweep.py for the actual generation of 
data.

Andreas

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Hello Andreas,

One problem could be when there is a Miss request followed by a Hit request. 
Taking the below example, initially queue has only one request R1(Miss), as 
soon as the this request is selected there
is another request in the queue R2(Hit). Here CAS of R2 is ready and can be 
issued right away in the next clock cycle. However,  i believe in the 
simulator, while it computes the ready time of R1, it also recomputes the
next CAS that can be issued to other Banks. Thus the CAS of R2 can now be 
issued only after the CAS of R1.  If i am right, this could be a problem?

Request1@Bank1 (PRE-ACT-CAS) --> Request2@Bank2 (CAS)

Thanks,
Prathap

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Andreas Hansson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Prathap,

Command-bus contention is intentionally not modelled. The main reason for this 
is to keep the model performant. Moreover, in real devices the command bus is 
typically designed to _not_ be a bottleneck. Admittedly this choice could be 
reassessed if needed.

Andreas

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Subject: [gem5-users] Modelling command bus contention in DRAM controller


Hello Users,

After closely looking at the doDRAMAccess() of dram controller implementation 
in GEM5, i suspect that the current implementation may not be taking in to 
account the command bus contention that could happen if DRAM timing constraints 
take particular values.

For example in the below scenario, the queue has two closed requests one to 
Bank1 and other to Bank2.

Request1@Bank1 (PRE-ACT-CAS) --> Request2@Bank2 (PRE-ACT-CAS)

Lets say tRP(8cycles), tRCD(8cycles), tCL(8cycles), and tRRD(8 cycles). In this 
case ACT of R2 and CAS of R1 becomes active at the same time.
At this point one command needs to be delayed by one clock cycle. I don't see 
how simulator is handling this?  If the simulator is handling this, could 
someone please point me to the code snippet where this is handled.


Thanks,
Prathap


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