On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:27:52PM +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: > On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 13:43 -0600, Mark Rages wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Colin D Bennett <co...@gibibit.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:50:33 +0200 > > > Stefan Salewski <m...@ssalewski.de> wrote: > > > > > >> For me, I never loved the many tool changes, and I was never able to > > >> remember all the key combinations. "er" is edit rotate, "ve" is view > > >> extend. For the later I am not really sure -- have not used gschem for a > > >> year. > > > > > > Don't forget, while “ve” is View Extents, “ev” alters all invisible > > > text and attributes making them visible! > > > > > > It is not like “en” which just toggles the display mode to show > > > invisible text, but “ev” actually changes the entities. > > For my money, we could kill "ev" and its menu item completely. I don't > think it serves any useful purpose, and has caused me many a headache. >
Full agreement here. One feature I would like to see in gschem is to have two grids: - the default grid when moving objects or anything - a finer grid automatically used when moving a single attribute I find myself very often switching to a finer grid when editing attributes to put them in the right place, especially in denser parts of the schematics where proximity hints at which component the attribute refers. And then I switch back to the default grid when I'm done with the attributes (otherwise I inevatibly end up with off-grid pins). It's the constant switching back and forth that annoys me. OrCad had this 20 years ago: it automatically used a 1/10 pin spacing grid when moving attributes. For the GUI I don't know whether you would have to put two grid settings (with limits) or keep a single grid and use a selectable fraction of the main grid (1/2, 1/5, 1/10). I really don't mind changing grids for the other case where I have to, which is when drawing symbols. You've really no choice in this case: user settable grid is better than no snap mode (which gschem allows to use as a fallback in any case). Personally, I have no problems with the two key shortcuts in gschem, now that cut/copy/paste/undo/redo use standard accelerators: there are far too many commands to map them to single keystrokes. Besides that if you use use special characters, they may be impossible to type with a single hand on some keyboard layouts, like | for thin lines in PCB, which is AltGr (ISO_Level3_Shift in X keysyms) 1 (the digit), the single AltGr key being at the right of the space bar (I have fairly large hands, and yet I can't type it with a single hand, so I have to move my right hand off the mouse). Staying with 2 Latin alphabetical characters (which are present on basically all keyboard layouts and do not require finger acrobacies) avoids these problems, and may even be better for some kinds of disabilities. Regards, Gabriel _______________________________________________ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user