Hello,

On Wed, 8 Apr 2020, Mark Wielaard wrote:

> On Tue, 2020-04-07 at 11:53 +0200, Florian Weimer via Overseers wrote:
> > Gmail can drop mail for any reason.  It's totally opaque, so it's a
> > poor benchmark for any mailing list configuration changes because it's
> > very hard to tell if a particular change is effective or not.
> > 
> > Many mailing lists have *not* made such changes and continue to work
> > just fine in the face of restrictive DMARC sender policies and
> > enforcement at the recipient.
> > 
> > In general, mail drop rates due to DMARC seem to increase in these two
> > cases if the original From: header is preserved:
> > 
> > * The sender (i.e., the domain mentioned in the From: header)
> >   publishes a restrictive DMARC policy and the mailing list strips the
> >   DKIM signature.
> > 
> > * The sender signs parts of the message that the mailing list alters,
> >   and the mailing list does not strip the DKIM signature.
> > 
> > If neither scenario applies, it's safe to pass through the message
> > without munging.  The mailing list software can detect this and
> > restricting the From: header munging to those cases.
> > 
> > I doubt Mailman 2.x can do this, so it is simply a poor choice as
> > mailing list software at this point.
> 
> Earlier versions of Mainman2 had some issues which might accidentally 
> change some headers. But the latest fixes make this possible. It is how 
> the FSF handles DMARC for various GNU mailinglists (by NOT modifying the 
> headers and body and passing through the DKIM signatures): 
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/savannah-hackers-public/2019-06/msg00018.html

Oh, that would be nice to have at sourceware.org.  Please?  :-)


Ciao,
Michael.

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