Thomas Schwinge <tschwi...@baylibre.com> writes:

> Hi!
>
> On 2025-06-02T22:01:44+0530, Arijit Kumar Das 
> <arijitkdgit.offic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Umm, I don't think so. I've been building crosses with gcc for decades.
>>>  It should not be necessary, though it may sometimes be convenient.
>
> Right.  Similarly to how it's, for example, documented on
> <https://www.gnu.org/software/gcc/simtest-howto.html>, also the build
> instructions for GCC '--target=nvptx-none' that I gave Arijit use a
> combined tree (just GCC plus newlib).  You might indeed consider that's
> just for convenience: let the top-level build system figure out at which
> stage to build newlib, instead of manually doing C-only GCC
> '--without-headers' etc., then build newlib with that, then rebuild full
> GCC, etc.
>
>>> If you feel there's a strong need, then you're going to have to make a
>>> better case than what you've done above. Specifically you'd need to
>>> start with why the standard cross build procedures don't work for nptx.
>
> I'd consider the combined tree build one "standard cross build procedure"
> (in addition to the "manual" one), but I also agree with Jeff that
> special-casing just newlib isn't the way to go, given there are indeed
> many more additional/optional packages that the top-level build system
> can handle, as mentioned in
> <https://inbox.sourceware.org/d463a70e-b586-40ce-b778-2e3d54b31...@gmail.com>.

We list a bunch of them, just not all.
>> understanding. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Actually, with Git, it's easier: you 'git add' only the files that you
> care about, and just ignore 'newlib' in the top-level.

I agree.

That said, IMO the bar for NACKing a .gitignore change should be fairly
high and I think the request to add newlib here is pretty
reasonable.

>
>
> Either way: Arijit, even if this one didn't get accepted, you've
> successfully executed the process: congratulations on your first GCC
> patch submission, on your own initiative -- way to go!  :-D
>
>
> Grüße
>  Thomas
>
>
>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 7:47 PM Jeff Law <jeffreya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/2/25 3:01 AM, Arijit Kumar Das wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > When compiling GCC for targets like nvptx-none that require newlib, we
>>> > need to put newlib-cygwin/newlib in the root directory of the source
>>> > tree (either a copy or a symlink), which is then built by GCC when
>>> > targeting offload devices like the above. Changes made in newlib
>>> > shouldn't affect GCC, so I think we should include newlib in this case.
>>> Umm, I don't think so.  I've been building crosses with gcc for decades.
>>>   It should not be necessary, though it may sometimes be convenient.
>>>
>>> If you feel there's a strong need, then you're going to have to make a
>>> better case than what you've done above.  Specifically you'd need to
>>> start with why the standard cross build procedures don't work for nptx.

I'd asked about this before on IRC but didn't get an answer, but maybe
I'll file a bug and inquire about that because it's been bugging me for
some time for our own packaging of nvptx ;)

>>>
>>> jeff

thanks,
sam

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