Hi, Michael, Thanks a lot for raising these questions for the parser implementation of the new syntax.
I started thinking about how to implement this new syntax inside counted_by attriubte In GCC C FE. Since I have very little experience with any parser, I do want to know any potential implementation issues in GCC C FE with the new syntax. Based on your examples below, there is an example coming to my mind that is a little tricky: A: constexpr int len = 20; struct s { int len; int *buf __attribute__ ((counted_by (len))); // this continues to be member ‘len’, not global ‘len' }; B: constexpr int len = 20; struct s { int len; int *buf __attribute__ ((counted_by (len+0))); //this is an expression , ‘len' refers to the global; }; When the parser is parsing the first identifier “len” inside the counted_by attribute, it cannot decide which syntax to use yet, it must look ahead at least one more word to decide, is this okay for the current C parser? Thanks. Qing > On Apr 4, 2025, at 09:21, Michael Matz <m...@suse.de> wrote: > > Hello, > > On Fri, 4 Apr 2025, Bill Wendling wrote: > >>>> I don’t have strong preference here. As mentioned by Jacub in a >>>> previous email, these two syntaxes can be distinguished by the number >>>> of arguments of the attribute. >>>> >>>> So for GCC, there should be no issue with either old name of a new name. >>>> However, I am not sure about CLANG. (Considering the complication with >>>> APPLE’s implementation) >> >> I also don't have a strong opinion on whether we should add new >> '*_expr' attributes. It's pretty easy to determine a single identifier >> from a more complex expression, so it's probably okay to use the >> current name. (I think that's what Apple has been doing internally.) > > Differentiating 'identifier' from 'decl' is easy (is first token a type? > -> decl), but 'lone-ident' from 'assignment-expression' requires some > look-ahead. It also always introduces the fun with useless > parentheses: is "(a)" a lone identifier or not? (Normally it's not). > > So, your current proposal (lone-ident or declaration) is good, from a > parsing perspective. But anything that somewhat merges lone-ident and > anything in the general assignment-expression syntax tree requires head > scratching, depending on parser implementation. > >> My initial thought is that you'd have something like this: >> >> struct Y { >> int n; >> }; >> >> struct Z { >> int *ints __attrbiute__((counted_by(struct Y y; y.n))); >> struct Y y; >> }; >> >> And it should "just work." I'm not sure if there's an issue with this >> though. > > I think it would just work in your proposal, yes. What about the typical > expr-vs-decl woes: > > typedef int TY; > struct Z { > int TY; > int *ints __attribute__((counted_by(TY))); // type or lone-ident? > }; > > when the parser sees the 'TY' token in counted_by (without consuming it): > does it go your first (lone-ident) or your second (decl) branch? (Of > course the second would lead to a syntax error, but we don't know yet, > we've seen the TY token and know that it could refer to a type). > > The normal thing a parser would do is to go the second route (and lead to > syntax error). It shouldn't go the first route (lone-ident), as otherwise > you again have a confusion with: > > typedef int TY; > struct Z1 { > int *ints __attribute__((counted_by(TY))); // can only be type > int TY; > }; > > which clearly is a syntax error. (Trying to avoid going the decl route > would also need another look-ahead) > > Anyway, I think your current proposal as-is (lone-ident | decl+expression) > is workable. > > > Ciao, > Michael.