Hi, Michael,

Thanks a lot for raising these questions for the parser implementation of the 
new syntax.

I started thinking about how to implement this new syntax inside counted_by 
attriubte 
In GCC C FE.  Since I have very little experience with any parser, I do want to 
know
any potential implementation issues in GCC C FE with the new syntax. 

Based on your examples below, there is an example coming to my mind that is a 
little
tricky:

A: 
constexpr int len = 20;
struct s {
 int len;
 int *buf __attribute__  ((counted_by (len))); // this continues to be member 
‘len’, not global ‘len'  
};

B:
constexpr int len = 20;
struct s {
 int len;
 int *buf __attribute__ ((counted_by (len+0))); //this is an expression , ‘len' 
refers to the global;
};

When the parser is parsing the first identifier “len” inside the counted_by 
attribute, it cannot decide
which syntax to use yet, it must look ahead at least one more word to decide, 
is this okay for the
current C parser?

Thanks.

Qing

> On Apr 4, 2025, at 09:21, Michael Matz <m...@suse.de> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2025, Bill Wendling wrote:
> 
>>>>    I don’t have strong preference here. As mentioned by Jacub in a
>>>>    previous email, these two syntaxes can be distinguished by the number
>>>>    of arguments of the attribute.
>>>> 
>>>>    So for GCC, there should be no issue with either old name of a new name.
>>>>    However, I am not sure about CLANG. (Considering the complication with 
>>>> APPLE’s implementation)
>> 
>> I also don't have a strong opinion on whether we should add new
>> '*_expr' attributes. It's pretty easy to determine a single identifier
>> from a more complex expression, so it's probably okay to use the
>> current name. (I think that's what Apple has been doing internally.)
> 
> Differentiating 'identifier' from 'decl' is easy (is first token a type?  
> -> decl), but 'lone-ident' from 'assignment-expression' requires some 
> look-ahead.  It also always introduces the fun with useless 
> parentheses: is "(a)" a lone identifier or not?  (Normally it's not).
> 
> So, your current proposal (lone-ident or declaration) is good, from a 
> parsing perspective.  But anything that somewhat merges lone-ident and 
> anything in the general assignment-expression syntax tree requires head 
> scratching, depending on parser implementation.
> 
>> My initial thought is that you'd have something like this:
>> 
>> struct Y {
>>  int n;
>> };
>> 
>> struct Z {
>>  int *ints __attrbiute__((counted_by(struct Y y; y.n)));
>>  struct Y y;
>> };
>> 
>> And it should "just work." I'm not sure if there's an issue with this 
>> though.
> 
> I think it would just work in your proposal, yes.  What about the typical 
> expr-vs-decl woes:
> 
> typedef int TY;
> struct Z {
>  int TY;
>  int *ints __attribute__((counted_by(TY))); // type or lone-ident?
> };
> 
> when the parser sees the 'TY' token in counted_by (without consuming it): 
> does it go your first (lone-ident) or your second (decl) branch?  (Of 
> course the second would lead to a syntax error, but we don't know yet, 
> we've seen the TY token and know that it could refer to a type).
> 
> The normal thing a parser would do is to go the second route (and lead to 
> syntax error).  It shouldn't go the first route (lone-ident), as otherwise 
> you again have a confusion with:
> 
> typedef int TY;
> struct Z1 {
>  int *ints __attribute__((counted_by(TY))); // can only be type
>  int TY;
> };
> 
> which clearly is a syntax error.  (Trying to avoid going the decl route 
> would also need another look-ahead)
> 
> Anyway, I think your current proposal as-is (lone-ident | decl+expression) 
> is workable.
> 
> 
> Ciao,
> Michael.


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