On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 at 18:30, Christophe Lyon
<christophe.l...@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 at 16:51, Richard Earnshaw (lists)
> <richard.earns...@arm.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 21/03/2025 15:15, Christophe Lyon wrote:
> > > On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 at 15:25, Richard Earnshaw (lists)
> > > <richard.earns...@arm.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 21/03/2025 14:05, Christophe Lyon wrote:
> > >>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 at 11:18, Richard Earnshaw (lists)
> > >>> <richard.earns...@arm.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 20/03/2025 16:15, Christophe Lyon wrote:
> > >>>>> Depending on if/how the testing flags are overridden, the first value
> > >>>>> we try("") might not do what we want.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> For instance, if the whole testsuite is executed with
> > >>>>> (A) -mthumb -march=armv7-m -mtune=cortex-m3 -mfloat-abi=softfp
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> bf16_neon_ok is first compiled with
> > >>>>> (A) (B)
> > >>>>> where B = -mcpu=unset -march=armv8.2-a+bf16
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> which is accepted, so a testcase like vld2q_lane_bf16_indices_1.c
> > >>>>> is compiled with:
> > >>>>> (A) (C) (B)
> > >>>>> where C = -mfpu=neon -mfloat-abi=softfp -mcpu=unset -march=armv7-a 
> > >>>>> -mfpu=neon-fp16 -mfp16-format=ieee
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> because advsimd-intrinsics.exp has set additional_flags to (C)
> > >>>>> via arm_neon_fp16_ok
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> So the testcase is compiled with
> > >>>>> [...] -mfpu=neon-fp16 -mcpu=unset -march=armv8.2-a+bf16
> > >>>>> (thus -mfpu=neon-fp16) and bf16 support is disabled.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The patch replaces "" with -mfpu=auto which matches the intended
> > >>>>> effect of -march=armv8.2-a+bf16 as added by bf16_neon_ok, and the
> > >>>>> testcase is now compiled with
> > >>>>> (A) (C) -mfpu=auto (B)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> However, since this effective-target is also used on aarch64 (which
> > >>>>> does not support -mfpu=auto), we do this only on arm.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This patch improves coverage, and makes
> > >>>>> v{ld,st}[234]q_lane_bf16_indices_1.c pass when testsuite flags are
> > >>>>> overridden as described above (e.g. for M-profile).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>       gcc/testsuite/
> > >>>>>       * lib/target-supports.exp
> > >>>>>       (check_effective_target_arm_v8_2a_bf16_neon_ok_nocache):
> > >>>>>       Conditionally use -mfpu=auto.
> > >>>>> ---
> > >>>>>  gcc/testsuite/lib/target-supports.exp | 9 ++++++++-
> > >>>>>  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> diff --git a/gcc/testsuite/lib/target-supports.exp 
> > >>>>> b/gcc/testsuite/lib/target-supports.exp
> > >>>>> index e2622a445c5..09b16a14024 100644
> > >>>>> --- a/gcc/testsuite/lib/target-supports.exp
> > >>>>> +++ b/gcc/testsuite/lib/target-supports.exp
> > >>>>> @@ -6871,12 +6871,19 @@ proc add_options_for_arm_fp16fml_neon { flags 
> > >>>>> } {
> > >>>>>  proc check_effective_target_arm_v8_2a_bf16_neon_ok_nocache { } {
> > >>>>>      global et_arm_v8_2a_bf16_neon_flags
> > >>>>>      set et_arm_v8_2a_bf16_neon_flags ""
> > >>>>> +    set fpu_auto ""
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>      if { ![istarget arm*-*-*] && ![istarget aarch64*-*-*] } {
> > >>>>>       return 0;
> > >>>>>      }
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -    foreach flags {"" "-mfloat-abi=softfp -mfpu=neon-fp-armv8" 
> > >>>>> "-mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon-fp-armv8" } {
> > >>>>> +    if { [istarget arm*-*-*] } {
> > >>>>> +     set fpu_auto "-mfpu=auto"
> > >>>>> +    }
> > >>>>> +
> > >>>>> +    foreach flags [list "$fpu_auto" \
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Shouldn't we try first with "", even on Arm?  Thus
> > >>>>        foreach flags [list "" "$fpu_auto" \
> > >>>> ...
> > >>>>
> > >>> I don't think so, that's why I tried to explain above.
> > >>> "" is acceptable / accepted in arm_v8_2a_bf16_neon_ok
> > >>> (this is (A) (B) above, where the important parts are:
> > >>> -march=armv7-m -mcpu=unset -march=armv8.2-a+bf16
> > >>> (so -mfpu is set to the toolchain's default)
> > >>
> > >> That's never going to work reliably.  We need to check, somewhere, the 
> > >> full set of options we intend to pass to the compilation.  We can't 
> > >> assume that separately testing if A is ok and B is ok => A + B is ok.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Hmmm I think I raised that problem years ago, because of the way the
> > > test system is designed...
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>> but then the actual testcase is compiled with additional flags (C)
> > >>> defined by the test driver using arm_neon_fp16_ok
> > >>> C = -mfpu=neon -mfloat-abi=softfp -mcpu=unset -march=armv7-a
> > >>> -mfpu=neon-fp16 -mfp16-format=ieee
> > >>>
> > >>> so the relevant parts of (A) (C) (B) are:
> > >>> -march=armv7-m  -mfpu=neon -mcpu=unset -march=armv7-a -mfpu=neon-fp16
> > >>> -mcpu=unset -march=armv8.2-a+bf16
> > >>> which can be simplified into
> > >>> -mfpu=neon-fp16 -march=armv8.2-a+bf16
> > >>>
> > >>> I think we need to start with -mfpu=auto instead of "", so that when
> > >>> -march=armv8.2-a+bf16 takes effect, we have cancelled any other -mfpu.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Ideally a test shouldn't add any options in some test runs; that way we 
> > >> add some 'base configuration' coverage.  We obviously can't do that 
> > >> everywhere and there may still be cases where the system can't test 
> > >> anything useful at all (hopefully only when linking, or more is needed).
> > >>
> > >
> > > Not sure to follow? If a test wants to check that a given feature
> > > works as expected, it has to use the appropriate options, doesn't it?
> >
> > Not if the base configuration for the run (from the compiler config or from 
> > the RUNTEST flags) already supports that feature.
> >
>
> OK, but isn't this error-prone?
> The effective-target unconditionally adds -mcpu=unset -march=XXX
> already, so relying on the implicit default value of -mcpu seems
typo, I meant -mfpu :-)

I was also thinking that since -cpu=unset was introduced to help testing,
making sure -march=XXX does what it intended by test, can't -mfpu=auto
be considered "equivalent" to -mcpu=unset, but for fpu?
(and in fact, maybe put it along with -mcpu=unset, rather than in the list
of options why try)


> inconsistent?
> The would also lead to confusion when comparing two logs with the
> exact same options, but different result because the toolchain was
> built with a different --with-fpu= option (which IIRC does not appear
> in gcc.log).
>
> Not sure what accepting "" rather than -mfpu=auto gives us?  Given we
> are checking which flags (-mfloat-abi for instance) are need to
> support -march=XXX, don't we want to make sure the corresponding fpu
> is in use?
>
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> +                    "-mfloat-abi=softfp -mfpu=neon-fp-armv8" \
> > >>>>> +                    "-mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=neon-fp-armv8" ] {
> > >>>>>       if { [check_no_compiler_messages_nocache arm_v8_2a_bf16_neon_ok 
> > >>>>> object {
> > >>>>>           #include <arm_neon.h>
> > >>>>>           #if !defined (__ARM_FEATURE_BF16_VECTOR_ARITHMETIC)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In fact, since aarch64 doesn't support -mfpu at all, only "" is ever 
> > >>>> going to work here, so perhaps we can recast all this code, perhaps 
> > >>>> along the lines of that in 
> > >>>> check_effective_target_arm_neon_h_ok_nocache so that we don't need to 
> > >>>> actually try to include arm_neon.h at all while figuring out the 
> > >>>> options.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Maybe.
> > >>>
> > >>> OTOH, actually including arm_neon.h is guaranteed to give the right
> > >>> answer to the question "which flags do we need to be able to include
> > >>> arm_neon.h?", rather than using several conditions that are supposed
> > >>> to match what arm_neon.h does?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Working out whether arm_neon.h can be included can be done with 
> > >> arm_neon_h_ok.  That's currently Arm only, but it's trivial to extend it 
> > >> to aarch64.  Once we have that, we can write some rules that build on 
> > >> that base to get other features that we might desire.  But we must, at 
> > >> some point check, rather than assume, that combining options from 
> > >> different rules will result in something sane.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I suspect most tests which currently use arm*neon* effective targets
> > > actually include arm_neon.h, they should arm_neon_h_ok.
> > >
> > > But I'm not sure what we can do to make sure, rather than assume that
> > > A + C + B does what we want, given that:
> > > - A is defined by the user who runs the testsuite (via RUNTESTFLAGS /
> > > target_board)
> > > - C is defined by the test harness (advsimd-intrinsics.exp)
> > > - B is defined as needed by individual tests
> > >
> > > At least we have no control on A.
> >
> > We have no control of A, but any require_... tests will add A to the option 
> > list they test; so we can override them if needed and check the override 
> > works.
>
> Yes, that's already what currently happens.
>
> > C is more complex - we perhaps need some bespoke checks in 
> > advsimd-intrinsics.exp that can be used to ensure that it's base flags are 
> > added to any tests we run.  I need to think about that one a bit; perhaps 
> > we can arrange to add these flags to A before the individual tests run 
> > their additional checks.
> >
> what is the advantage compared to replacing "" with -mfpu=auto, which
> seems simpler?
>
> > >
> > > We can create a new directory, where the .exp test harness would not
> > > use additional options, and move tests which need
> > > effective-target-arm-arch* there.
> > > (that is 189 files out of 541 under advsimd-intrinsics/)
> > >
> >
> > Those tests might benefit from a refactor anyway - the common arm/aarch64 
> > tests should probably live in dg.target/aarch, and only the 
> > aarch64-specific tests should be in dg.target/aarch64.
> >
> Indeed, but isn't this an orthogonal problem?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christophe
>
> > R.
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Christophe
> > >
> > >
> > >> R.
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Christophe
> > >>>
> > >>>> R.
> > >>
> >

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