> On 14 Feb 2024, at 22:59, Iain Sandoe <idsan...@googlemail.com> wrote:

>> On 12 Feb 2024, at 19:59, Jason Merrill <ja...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2/10/24 07:30, Iain Sandoe wrote:
>>>> On 10 Feb 2024, at 12:07, Jason Merrill <ja...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/10/24 05:46, Iain Sandoe wrote:
>>>>>> On 9 Feb 2024, at 23:21, Iain Sandoe <idsan...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9 Feb 2024, at 10:56, Iain Sandoe <idsan...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8 Feb 2024, at 21:44, Jason Merrill <ja...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2/8/24 12:55, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2/8/24 18:16, Jason Merrill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hmm.  In stage 1, when we build with the system gcc, I'd think we 
>>>>>>>>>>> want the just-built gnat1 to find the system libgcc.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In stage 2, when we build with the stage 1 gcc, we want the 
>>>>>>>>>>> just-built gnat1 to find the stage 1 libgcc.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> In neither case do we want it to find the libgcc from the current 
>>>>>>>>>>> stage.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> So it seems to me that what we want is for stage2+ LD_LIBRARY_PATH 
>>>>>>>>>>> to include the TARGET_LIB_PATH from the previous stage.  Something 
>>>>>>>>>>> like the below, on top of the earlier patch.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Does this make sense?  Does it work on Darwin?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Oops, that was broken, please consider this one instead:
>>>>>>>>> Yes, this one makes sense (and the current code would not work since 
>>>>>>>>> it lacks the prev- prefix on TARGET_LIB_PATH).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Indeed, that seems like evidence that the only element of 
>>>>>>>> TARGET_LIB_PATH that has been useful in HOST_EXPORTS is the prev- part 
>>>>>>>> of HOST_LIB_PATH_gcc.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So, here's another patch that just includes that for post-stage1:
>>>>>>>> <0001-build-drop-target-libs-from-LD_LIBRARY_PATH-PR105688.patch>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hmm this still fails for me with gnat1 being unable to find libgcc_s.
>>>>>>> It seems I have to add the PREV_HOST_LIB_PATH_gcc to HOST_LIB_PATH for 
>>>>>>> it to succeed so,
>>>>>>> presumably, the post stage1 exports are not being forwarded to that 
>>>>>>> build.  I’ll try to analyze what
>>>>>>> exactly is failing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The fail is occurring in the target libada build; so, I suppose, one 
>>>>>> might say it’s reasonable that it
>>>>>> requires this host path to be added to the target exports since it’s a 
>>>>>> host library used during target
>>>>>> builds (or do folks expect the host exports to be made for target lib 
>>>>>> builds as well?)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Appending the prev-gcc dirctory to the HOST_LIB_PATH fixes this
>>>>> Hmm this is still not right, in this case, I think it should actually be 
>>>>> the “just built” directory;
>>>>> - if we have a tool that depends on host libraries (that happen to be 
>>>>> also target ones),
>>>>>  then those libraries have to be built before the tool so that they can 
>>>>> be linked to it.
>>>>>  (we specially copy libgcc* and the CRTs to gcc/ to allow for this case)
>>>>> - there is no prev-gcc in cross and —disable-bootstrap builds, but the 
>>>>> tool will still be
>>>>>   linked to the just-built host libraries (which will also be installed).
>>>>> So, I think we have to add HOST_LIB_PATH_gcc to HOST_LIB_PATH
>>>>> and HOST_PREV_LIB_PATH_gcc to POSTSTAGE1_HOST_EXPORTS (as per this patch).
>>>> 
>>>> I don't follow.  In a cross build, host libraries are a different 
>>>> architecture from target libraries, and certainly can't be linked into 
>>>> host binaries.
>>>> 
>>>> In a disable-bootstrap build, even before my change TARGET_LIB_PATH isn't 
>>>> added to RPATH_ENVVAR, since that has been guarded with @if gcc-bootstrap.
>>>> 
>>>> So in a bootstrap build, it shouldn't be needed for stage1 either.  And 
>>>> for stage2, the one we need is from stage1, that matches the compiler 
>>>> we're building host tools with.
>>>> 
>>>> What am I missing?
>>> nothing, I was off on a tangent about the cross/non-bootstrap, sorry about 
>>> that.
>>> However, when doing target builds (the previous point) it seems we do have 
>>> to make provision for gnat1 to find libgcc_s, and, at present, it seems 
>>> that only the target exports are active.
>> 
>> Ah, I see: When building target libraries in stage2, we run the stage2 
>> compiler that needs the stage1 libgcc_s, but we don't have the HOST_EXPORTS 
>> because we're building target code, so we also need to get the libgcc path 
>> into TARGET_EXPORTS.
>> 
>> Since TARGET_LIB_PATH is only added when gcc-bootstrap, I guess the previous 
>> libgcc is the only piece needed in TARGET_EXPORTS as well.  So, how about 
>> this version of the patch?
> 
> I tested this one on an affected platform version with and without 
> —enable-host-shared and for all languages (less go which is not yet 
> supported).  It works for me, thanks,
> Iain

Incidentally, during my investigations I was looking into various parts of this 
and it seems that actually TARGET_LIB_PATH might well be effectively dead code 
now.

Outside of the top level Makefile, it is referred to by libgm2 and libgrust top 
level Makefile.am (as a passed-on flag), however AFAICT it is not exported from 
the top level Makefile (so, I assume that those references are also unused).

Iain

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