On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 16:40, Christophe Lyon
<christophe.l...@linaro.org> wrote:
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> On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 17:22, Jonathan Wakely <jwak...@redhat.com> wrote:
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>> On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 14:57, Christophe Lyon
>> <christophe.l...@linaro.org> wrote:
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>> > On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 15:12, Jonathan Wakely <jwak...@redhat.com> wrote:
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>> >> On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 13:36, Christophe Lyon
>> >> <christophe.l...@linaro.org> wrote:
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>> >> > On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 12:59, Jonathan Wakely <jwak...@redhat.com> 
>> >> > wrote:
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>> >> >> On Sun, 10 Sept 2023 at 20:31, Christophe Lyon
>> >> >> <christophe.l...@linaro.org> wrote:
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>> >> >> > Some targets like arm-eabi with newlib and default settings rely on
>> >> >> > __sync_synchronize() to ensure synchronization.  Newlib does not
>> >> >> > implement it by default, to make users aware they have to take 
>> >> >> > special
>> >> >> > care.
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>> >> >> > This makes a few tests fail to link.
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>> >> >> Does this mean those features are unusable on the target, or just that
>> >> >> users need to provide their own __sync_synchronize to use them?
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>> >> > IIUC the user is expected to provide them.
>> >> > Looks like we discussed this in the past :-)
>> >> > In  https://gcc.gnu.org/legacy-ml/gcc-patches/2016-10/msg01632.html,
>> >> > see the pointer to Ramana's comment: 
>> >> > https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2015-05/msg02751.html
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>> >> Oh yes, thanks for the reminder!
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>> >> > The default arch for arm-eabi is armv4t which is very old.
>> >> > When running the testsuite with something more recent (either as 
>> >> > default by configuring GCC --with-arch=XXX or by forcing -march/-mcpu 
>> >> > via dejagnu's target-board), the compiler generates barrier 
>> >> > instructions and there are no such errors.
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>> >> Ah yes, that's fine then.
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>> >> > For instance, here is a log with the defaults:
>> >> > https://git.linaro.org/toolchain/ci/base-artifacts/tcwg_gnu_embed_check_gcc/master-arm_eabi.git/tree/00-sumfiles?h=linaro-local/ci/tcwg_gnu_embed_check_gcc/master-arm_eabi
>> >> > and a log when we target cortex-m0 which is still a very small cpu but 
>> >> > has barriers:
>> >> > https://git.linaro.org/toolchain/ci/base-artifacts/tcwg_gnu_embed_check_gcc/master-thumb_m0_eabi.git/tree/00-sumfiles?h=linaro-local/ci/tcwg_gnu_embed_check_gcc/master-thumb_m0_eabi
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>> >> > I somehow wanted to get rid of such errors with the default 
>> >> > configuration....
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>> >> Yep, that makes sense, and we'll still be testing them for newer
>> >> arches on the target, so it's not completely disabling those parts of
>> >> the testsuite.
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>> >> But I'm still curious why some of those tests need this change. I
>> >> think the ones I noted below are probably failing for some other
>> >> reasons.
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>> > Just looked at  23_containers/span/back_assert_neg.cc, the linker says it 
>> > needs
>> > arm-eabi/libstdc++-v3/src/.libs/libstdc++.a(debug.o) to resolve
>> > ./back_assert_neg-back_assert_neg.o (std::__glibcxx_assert_fail(char 
>> > const*, int, char const*, char const*))
>> > and indeed debug.o has a reference to __sync_synchronize
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>> Aha, that's just because I put __glibcxx_assert_fail in debug.o, but
>> there are no dependencies on anything else in that file, including the
>> _M_detach member function that uses atomics.
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> indeed
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>> This would also be solved by -Wl,--gc-sections :-)
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> :-)
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>> I think it would be better to move __glibcxx_assert_fail to a new
>> file, so that it doesn't make every assertion unnecessarily depend on
>> __sync_synchronize. I'll do that now.
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> Sounds like a good idea, thanks.

Done now at r14-3846-g4a2766ed00a479
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>> We could also make the atomics in debug.o conditional, so that debug
>> mode doesn't depend on __sync_synchronize for single-threaded targets.
>> Does the arm4t arch have pthreads support in newlib?  I didn't bother
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> No ( grep _GLIBCXX_HAS_GTHREADS 
> $objdir/arm-eabi/libstdc++-v3/include/arm-eabi/bits/c++config returns:
> /* #undef _GLIBCXX_HAS_GTHREADS */
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>> making the use of atomics conditional, because performance is not
>> really a priority for debug mode bookkeeping. But the problem here
>> isn't just a slight performance overhead of atomics, it's that they
>> aren't even supported for arm4t.
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> OK thanks.
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> So finally, this uncovered at least a "bug" that  __glibcxx_assert_fail 
> should be in a dedicated object file :-)
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> I'll revisit my patch once you have moved __glibcxx_assert_fail

That's done (at r14-3845-gc7db9000fa7cac) and there should be no more
__sync_synchronize from src/c++11/debug.o at all now (at
r14-3846-g4a2766ed00a479). With that second change, it would have been
OK for __glibcxx_assert_fail to stay in that file, but it's not really
related so it's probably better for it to be in a separate file
anyway.

That should remove the need for most of your patch!

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