On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 5:39 PM Richard Sandiford
<richard.sandif...@arm.com> wrote:
>
> Hongtao Liu <crazy...@gmail.com> writes:
> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 1:39 AM Richard Sandiford
> > <richard.sandif...@arm.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Tamar Christina <tamar.christ...@arm.com> writes:
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Hongtao Liu <crazy...@gmail.com>
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 9:37 AM
> >> >> To: Tamar Christina <tamar.christ...@arm.com>
> >> >> Cc: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandif...@arm.com>; Tamar Christina via
> >> >> Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>; nd <n...@arm.com>;
> >> >> rguent...@suse.de
> >> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/8]middle-end: Support extractions of subvectors 
> >> >> from
> >> >> arbitrary element position inside a vector
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 4:51 PM Tamar Christina
> >> >> <tamar.christ...@arm.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > From: Hongtao Liu <crazy...@gmail.com>
> >> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 8:36 AM
> >> >> > > To: Tamar Christina <tamar.christ...@arm.com>
> >> >> > > Cc: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandif...@arm.com>; Tamar Christina
> >> >> > > via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>; nd <n...@arm.com>;
> >> >> > > rguent...@suse.de
> >> >> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/8]middle-end: Support extractions of
> >> >> > > subvectors from arbitrary element position inside a vector
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Hi:
> >> >> > >   I'm from https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-
> >> >> > > November/606040.html.
> >> >> > > >      }
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >    /* See if we can get a better vector mode before extracting.
> >> >> > > > */ diff --git a/gcc/optabs.cc b/gcc/optabs.cc index
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> cff37ccb0dfc3dd79b97d0abfd872f340855dc96..f338df410265dfe55b68961600
> >> >> > > 9
> >> >> > > 0
> >> >> > > > a453cc6a28d9 100644
> >> >> > > > --- a/gcc/optabs.cc
> >> >> > > > +++ b/gcc/optabs.cc
> >> >> > > > @@ -6267,6 +6267,7 @@ expand_vec_perm_const (machine_mode
> >> >> mode,
> >> >> > > rtx v0, rtx v1,
> >> >> > > >        v0_qi = gen_lowpart (qimode, v0);
> >> >> > > >        v1_qi = gen_lowpart (qimode, v1);
> >> >> > > >        if (targetm.vectorize.vec_perm_const != NULL
> >> >> > > > +         && targetm.can_change_mode_class (mode, qimode,
> >> >> > > > + ALL_REGS)
> >> >> > > It looks like you want to guard gen_lowpart, shouldn't it be better
> >> >> > > to use validate_subreg  or (tmp = gen_lowpart_if_possible (mode,
> >> >> target_qi)).
> >> >> > > IMHO, targetm.can_change_mode_class is mostly used for RA, but not
> >> >> > > to guard gen_lowpart.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hmm I don't think this is quite true, there are existing usages in
> >> >> > expr.cc and rtanal.cc That do this and aren't part of RA.  As I
> >> >> > mentioned before for instance the canoncalization of vec_select to 
> >> >> > subreg
> >> >> in rtlanal for instances uses this.
> >> >> In theory, we need to iterate through all reg classes that can be 
> >> >> assigned for
> >> >> both qimode and mode, if any regclass returns true for
> >> >> targetm.can_change_mode_class, the bitcast(validate_subreg) should be 
> >> >> ok.
> >> >> Here we just passed ALL_REGS.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, and most targets where this transformation is valid return true 
> >> > here.
> >> >
> >> > I've checked:
> >> >  * alpha
> >> >  * arm
> >> >  * aarch64
> >> >  * rs6000
> >> >  * s390
> >> >  * sparc
> >> >  * pa
> >> >  * mips
> >> >
> >> > And even the default example that other targets use from the 
> >> > documentation
> >> > would return true as the size of the modes are the same.
> >> >
> >> > X86 and RISCV are the only two targets that I found (but didn't check 
> >> > all) that
> >> > blankly return a result based on just the register classes.
> >> >
> >> > That is to say, there are more targets that adhere to the interpretation 
> >> > that
> >> > rclass here means "should be possible in some class in rclass" rather 
> >> > than
> >> > "should be possible in ALL classes of rclass".
> >>
> >> Yeah, I agree.  A query "can something stored in ALL_REGS change from
> >> mode M1 to mode M2?" is meaningful if at least one register R in ALL_REGS
> >> can hold both M1 and M2.  It's then the target's job to answer
> >> conservatively so that the result covers all such R.
> >>
> >> In principle it's OK for a target to err on the side of caution and forbid
> >> things that are actually OK.  But that's going to risk losing performance
> >> in some cases, and sometimes that loss of performance will be unacceptable.
> >> IMO that's what's happening here.  The target is applying x87 rules to
> >> things that (AIUI) are never stored in x87 registers, and so losing
> > Yes, it can be optimized since some mode will never assigned to x87 
> > registers.
> >> performance as a result.
> >>
> >> Note that the RA also uses ALL_REGS for some things, so this usage
> >> isn't specific to non-RA code.
> > RA passes the minimal reg class(REGNO_REG_CLASS) which contains REGN
> > to decide if can_change_mode_class, not ALL_REGS.
> > 511/* Given a hard REGN a FROM mode and a TO mode, return true if
> > 512   REGN can change from mode FROM to mode TO.  */
> > 513#define REG_CAN_CHANGE_MODE_P(REGN, FROM, TO)                          \
> > 514  (targetm.can_change_mode_class (FROM, TO, REGNO_REG_CLASS (REGN)))
> > 515
> >
> > So I still think using can_change_mode_class outside of RA with
> > ALL_REGS passed to decide whether it's ok to generate subreg is not a
> > good idea.
>
> But if the argument is that the only valid uses of can_change_mode_class
> are through this macro, the hook isn't describing a class property,
> it's describing the property of individual registers.  If we say that
> querying individual registers is the only valid thing to do them
> we should change the hook to take a register number rather than
> a class enum.
>
> The reason we have a class-based rather than register-based interface
> is because it is useful to query classes before you've picked a
> specific register.
For individual registers in the minimal reg class, we assume they are
not different from each other, I guess that's why we have
REGNO_REG_CLASS and class-based interfaces other than register-based
interfaces.
But for ALL_REGS, it's not the minimal reg class, it's the largest.
Using it It's not that suitable.
If the argument is if some r in rclass is ok for mode change, the hook
would return true, then why would RA use REGNO_REG_CLASS other than
ALL_REGS.
Another spot is in validate_subreg, we're using the minimal reg class
instead of ALL_REGS.
 973  /* This is a normal subreg.  Verify that the offset is representable.  */
 974
 975  /* For hard registers, we already have most of these rules collected in
 976     subreg_offset_representable_p.  */
 977  if (reg && REG_P (reg) && HARD_REGISTER_P (reg))
 978    {
 979      unsigned int regno = REGNO (reg);
 980
 981      if ((COMPLEX_MODE_P (imode) || VECTOR_MODE_P (imode))
 982          && GET_MODE_INNER (imode) == omode)
 983        ;
 984      else if (!REG_CAN_CHANGE_MODE_P (regno, imode, omode))
 985        return false;

I think we do need some hook in the middle end to query things like if
some r in rclass is ok for mode change?  but not reusing
can_change_mode_class.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
>
> >> IMO it's not the job of target-independent code to iterate through
> >> individual classes and aggregate the result.  One of the reasons for
> >> having union classes is to avoid the need to do that.  And ALL_REGS
> >> is the ultimate union class. :-)
> >>
> >> The patch looks correct to me.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So there are already existing precedence for this.  And the
> >> >> > documentation for the hook says:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "This hook returns true if it is possible to bitcast values held in 
> >> >> > registers of
> >> >> class rclass from mode from to mode to and if doing so preserves the 
> >> >> low-
> >> >> order bits that are common to both modes. The result is only meaningful 
> >> >> if
> >> >> rclass has registers that can hold both from and to. The default
> >> >> implementation returns true"
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So it looks like it's use outside of RA is perfectly valid.. and the
> >> >> > documentation also mentions in the example the use from the mid-end as
> >> >> an example.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > But if the mid-end maintainers are happy I'll use something else.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Tamar
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > I did similar things in
> >> >> > > https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2021-September/579296.html
> >> >> > > (and ALL_REGS doesn't cover all cases for registers which are both
> >> >> > > available for qimode and mode, ALL_REGS fail doesn't mean it can't
> >> >> > > be subreg, it just means parts of ALL_REGS can't be subreg. but with
> >> >> > > a subset of ALL_REGS, there could be a reg class which return true
> >> >> > > for
> >> >> > > targetm.can_change_mode_class)
> >> >> > > >           && targetm.vectorize.vec_perm_const (qimode, qimode,
> >> >> > > > target_qi,
> >> >> > > v0_qi,
> >> >> > > >                                                v1_qi, 
> >> >> > > > qimode_indices))
> >> >> > > >         return gen_lowpart (mode, target_qi); @@ -6311,7 +6312,8
> >> >> > > > @@ expand_vec_perm_const (machine_mode mode, rtx v0, rtx v1,
> >> >> > > >      }
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >    if (qimode != VOIDmode
> >> >> > > > -      && selector_fits_mode_p (qimode, qimode_indices))
> >> >> > > > +      && selector_fits_mode_p (qimode, qimode_indices)
> >> >> > > > +      && targetm.can_change_mode_class (mode, qimode, ALL_REGS))
> >> >> > > >      {
> >> >> > > >        icode = direct_optab_handler (vec_perm_optab, qimode);
> >> >> > > >        if (icode != CODE_FOR_nothing) diff --git
> >> >> > > > a/gcc/testsuite/gcc.target/aarch64/ext_1.c
> >> >> > > > b/gcc/testsuite/gcc.target/aarch64/ext_1.c
> >> >> > > > new file mode 100644
> >> >> > > > index
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000..18a10a14f1161584267a8472e5
> >> >> > > 71
> >> >> > > > b3bc2ddf887a
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > > BR,
> >> >> > > Hongtao
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> BR,
> >> >> Hongtao



-- 
BR,
Hongtao

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