On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 5:19 PM Richard Sandiford
<richard.sandif...@arm.com> wrote:
>
> Richard Biener <richard.guent...@gmail.com> writes:
> > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 4:03 PM Richard Sandiford
> > <richard.sandif...@arm.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Richard Biener <richard.guent...@gmail.com> writes:
> >> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 6:54 PM Joel Hutton <joel.hut...@arm.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Richard(s),
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm just looking to see if I'm going about this the right way, based on 
> >> >> the discussion we had on IRC. I've managed to hack something together, 
> >> >> I've attached a (very) WIP patch which gives the correct codegen for 
> >> >> the testcase in question 
> >> >> (https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=98772). It would 
> >> >> obviously need to support other widening patterns and differentiate 
> >> >> between big/little endian among other things.
> >> >>
> >> >> I added a backend pattern because I wasn't quite clear which changes to 
> >> >> make in order to allow the existing backend patterns to be used with a 
> >> >> V8QI, or how to represent V16QI where we don't care about the 
> >> >> top/bottom 8. I made some attempt in optabs.c, which is in the patch 
> >> >> commented out, but I'm not sure if I'm going about this the right way.
> >> >
> >> > Hmm, as said, I'd try to arrange like illustrated in the attachment,
> >> > confined to vectorizable_conversion.  The
> >> > only complication might be sub-optimal code-gen for the vector-vector
> >> > CTOR compensating for the input
> >> > vector (on RTL that would be a paradoxical subreg from say V4HI to V8HI)
> >>
> >> Yeah.  I don't really like this because it means that it'll be
> >> impossible to remove the redundant work in gimple.  The extra elements
> >> are just a crutch to satisfy the type system.
> >
> > We can certainly devise a more clever way to represent a paradoxical subreg,
> > but at least the actual operation (WIDEN_MINUS_LOW) would match what
> > the hardware can do.
>
> At least for the Arm ISAs, the low parts are really 64-bit → 128-bit
> operations.  E.g. the low-part intrinsic for signed 8-bit integers is:
>
>    int16x8_t vsubl_s8 (int8x8_t __a, int8x8_t __b);
>
> whereas the high-part intrinsic is:
>
>    int16x8_t vsubl_high_s8 (int8x16_t __a, int8x16_t __b);
>
> So representing the low part as a 128-bit → 128-bit operation is already
> a little artifical.

that's intrinsincs - but I guess the actual machine instruction is different?

> > OTOH we could simply accept half of a vector for
> > the _LOW (little-endial) or _HIGH (big-endian) op and have the expander
> > deal with subreg frobbing?  Not that I'd like that very much though, even
> > a VIEW_CONVERT <v8hi> (v4hi-reg) would be cleaner IMHO (not sure
> > how to go about endianess here ... the _LOW/_HIGH paints us into some
> > corner here)
>
> I think it only makes sense for the low part.  But yeah, I guess that
> would work (although I agree it doesn't seem very appealing :-)).
>
> > A new IFN (direct optab?) means targets with existing support for _LO/HI
> > do not automatically benefit which is a shame.
>
> In practice this will only affect targets that choose to use mixed
> vector sizes, and I think it's reasonable to optimise only for the
> case in which such targets support widening conversions.  So what
> do you think about the idea of emitting separate conversions and
> a normal subtract?  We'd be relying on RTL to fuse them together,
> but at least there would be no redundancy to eliminate.

So in vectorizable_conversion for the widen-minus you'd check
whether you can do a v4qi -> v4hi and then emit a conversion
and a wide minus?  I guess as long as vectorizer costing behaves
as if the op is fused that's a similarly OK trick as a V_C_E or a
vector CTOR.

Richard.

> Thanks,
> Richard
> >
> >> As far as Joel's patch goes, I was imagining that the new operation
> >> would be an internal function rather than a tree code.  However,
> >> if we don't want that, maybe we should just emit separate conversions
> >> and a normal subtraction, like we would for (signed) x - (unsigned) y.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Richard

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