My point is tracking info and consistent behavior/scheme with other extensions, so personally I strongly prefer it should be guarded with -march.
But maybe we could create an issue on riscv-c-api-doc[1] or riscv-toolchain-conventions[2] to get feedback from LLVM folks, since I think this behavior should align between LLVM and GCC. [1] https://github.com/riscv/riscv-c-api-doc [2] https://github.com/riscv/riscv-toolchain-conventions On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 2:53 PM Philipp Tomsich <philipp.toms...@vrull.eu> wrote: > > Kito: > > We had originally considered to guard this with a -march, but decided against > it > eventually: this instruction will be (among other cases) used in the > cpu_relax() of > the Linux kernel. For cases like that, we should consider this the baseline > (i.e. > either there's no pause—in which case, the encoded fence will not hurt—or the > Zihintpause extension)... but it all maps back to a single builtin-call. > > Note that the Zihintfence will be enabled for all (also older) targets, as > the insn > is supported there as well (as a fence that doesn't do anything)... so > guarding it > will not really change the behavior. > > That said, I'll get going on an v2 that will include the -march guard (and we > can > still turn things back to how they are today). > > Thanks, > Philipp. > > On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 at 06:42, Kito Cheng <kito.ch...@sifive.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Andrew: >> >> It's safe to execute on old machine, but it is still a new extension not >> included on baseline ISA, so I still prefer having -march to guard that, and >> then we can track that in the ELF attribute to see what extensions and which >> version are used in the executable / object files. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 11:51 AM Andrew Waterman <aswater...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I've got a contrary opinion: >>> >>> Since HINTs are guaranteed to execute as no-ops--e.g., this one is >>> just a FENCE instruction, which is already a mandatory part of the >>> base ISA--they don't _need_ to be called out as separate extensions in >>> the toolchain. >>> >>> Although there's nothing fundamentally wrong with Kito's suggestion, >>> it seems like an extra hoop to jump through without commensurate >>> benefit. I see no reason to restrict the use of __builtin_pause, >>> since all RISC-V implementations, including old ones, are required to >>> support it. And, of course, that's the reason we encoded it this way >>> :) >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 7:35 PM Kito Cheng <kito.ch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi Philipp: >>> > >>> > Could you add zihintpause to -march parser and guard that on the >>> > pattern and builtin like zifencei[1-2]? >>> > >>> > And could you sent a PR to >>> > https://github.com/riscv/riscv-c-api-doc/blob/master/riscv-c-api.md to >>> > mention __builtin_riscv_pause? >>> > >>> > Thanks! >>> > >>> > [1] march parser change: >>> > https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/commit/b03be74bad08c382da47e048007a78fa3fb4ef49 >>> > [2] Default version for ext.: >>> > https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/commit/4b81528241ca682025d92558ff6aeec91dafdca8 >>> > >>> > >>> > > --- /dev/null >>> > > +++ b/gcc/testsuite/gcc.target/riscv/builtin_pause.c >>> > > @@ -0,0 +1,10 @@ >>> > > +/* { dg-do compile } */ >>> > > +/* { dg-options "-O2" } */ >>> > > + >>> > > +void test_pause() >>> > >>> > I would suggest you change the function name in the testcase, >>> > otherwise the scan-assembler test will always pass even if you didn't >>> > generate "pause" instruction. >>> > >>> > >>> > > +{ >>> > > + __builtin_riscv_pause (); >>> > > +} >>> > > + >>> > > +/* { dg-final { scan-assembler "pause" } } */ >>> > > + >>> > > -- >>> > > 2.18.4 >>> > >