"Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <richard.earns...@arm.com> writes:
> On 06/04/2020 12:19, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>> "Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <richard.earns...@arm.com> writes:
>>> On 03/04/2020 16:03, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>>>> "Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <richard.earns...@arm.com> writes:
>>>>> On 03/04/2020 13:27, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>>>>>> "Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <richard.earns...@arm.com> writes:
>>>>>>> On 02/04/2020 19:53, Richard Henderson via Gcc-patches wrote:
>>>>>>>> This is attacking case 3 of PR 94174.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In v2, I unify the various subtract-with-borrow and add-with-carry
>>>>>>>> patterns that also output flags with unspecs.  As suggested by
>>>>>>>> Richard Sandiford during review of v1.  It does seem cleaner.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really?  I didn't need to use any unspecs for the Arm version of this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> R.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2020-April/543063.html
>>>>>> (including quoted context) for how we got here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The same problem affects the existing aarch64 patterns like
>>>>>> *usub<GPI:mode>3_carryinC.  Although that pattern avoids unspecs,
>>>>>> the compare:CC doesn't seem to be correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But I don't think you can use ANY_EXTEND in these comparisons.  It
>>>>> doesn't describe what the instruction does, since the instruction does
>>>>> not really extend the values first.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, that was the starting point in the thread above too.  And using
>>>> zero_extend in the existing *usub<GPI:mode>3_carryinC pattern:
>>>>
>>>> (define_insn "*usub<GPI:mode>3_carryinC"
>>>>   [(set (reg:CC CC_REGNUM)
>>>>    (compare:CC
>>>>      (zero_extend:<DWI>
>>>>        (match_operand:GPI 1 "register_operand" "r"))
>>>>      (plus:<DWI>
>>>>        (zero_extend:<DWI>
>>>>          (match_operand:GPI 2 "register_operand" "r"))
>>>>        (match_operand:<DWI> 3 "aarch64_borrow_operation" ""))))
>>>>    (set (match_operand:GPI 0 "register_operand" "=r")
>>>>    (minus:GPI
>>>>      (minus:GPI (match_dup 1) (match_dup 2))
>>>>      (match_operand:GPI 4 "aarch64_borrow_operation" "")))]
>>>>    ""
>>>>    "sbcs\\t%<w>0, %<w>1, %<w>2"
>>>>   [(set_attr "type" "adc_reg")]
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> looks wrong for the same reason.  But the main problem IMO isn't how the
>>>> inputs to the compare:CC are represented, but that we're using compare:CC
>>>> at all.  Using compare doesn't accurately model the effect of SBCS on NZCV
>>>> for all inputs, so if we're going to use a compare here, it can't be :CC.
>>>>
>>>>> I would really expect this patch series to be pretty much a dual of this
>>>>> series that I posted last year for Arm.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2019-October/532180.html
>>>>
>>>> That series uses compares with modes like CC_V and CC_B, so I think
>>>> you're saying that given the choice in the earlier thread between adding
>>>> a new CC mode or using unspecs, you would have preferred a new CC mode,
>>>> is that right?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes.  It surprised me, when doing the aarch32 version, just how often
>>> the mid-end parts of the compiler were able to reason about parts of the
>>> parallel insn and optimize things accordingly (eg propagating the truth
>>> of the comparison).  If you use an unspec that can never happen.
>> 
>> That could be changed though.  E.g. we could add something like a
>> simplify_unspec target hook if this becomes a problem (either here
>> or for other unspecs).  A fancy implementation could even use
>> match.pd-style rules in the .md file.
>
> I really don't like that.  It sounds like the top of a long slippery
> slope.  What about all the other cases where the RTL is comprehended by
> the mid-end?

Is it really so bad though?  It's similar to how frontends can define
and fold their own trees, and how targets can define and fold their own
built-in functions.

The CC modes are also quite heavily macro/hook-based.

>> The reason I'm not keen on using special modes for this case is that
>> they'd describe one way in which the result can be used rather than
>> describing what the instruction actually does.  The instruction really
>> does set all four flags to useful values.  The "problem" is that they're
>> not the values associated with a compare between two values, so representing
>> them that way will always lose information.
>> 
>
> Yes, it's true that the rtl -> machine instruction transform is not 100%
> reversible.  That's always been the case, but it's the price we pay for
> a generic IL that describes instructions on multiple architectures.

It's not really reversibility that I'm after (at least not for its
own sake).

If we had a three-input compare_cc rtx_code that described a comparison
involving a carry input, we'd certainly be using it here, because that's
what the instruction does.  Given that we don't have the rtx_code, three
obvious choices are:

(1) Add it.

(2) Continue to represent what the instruction does using an unspec.

(3) Don't try to represent the "three-input compare_cc" operation and
    instead describe a two-input comparison that only yields a valid
    result for a subset of tests.

(1) seems like the best technical solution but would probably be
a lot of work.  I guess the reason I like (2) is that it stays
closest to (1).

Thanks,
Richard

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