On September 22, 2019 1:48:34 AM GMT+02:00, Segher Boessenkool 
<seg...@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
>On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 03:04:26PM -0600, Jeff Law wrote:
>> On 9/21/19 2:48 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>> >> On Sep 20, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Jeff Law <l...@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >> On 9/20/19 11:22 AM, Richard Biener wrote:
>> >> Now if someone did a variant #2 without the optimization bits (ie,
>
>> >> adding appropriate _set_flags pattern variants), I think that
>> >> should be considered explicitly OK even though the code quality
>> >> would potentially suffer.  Essentially it's a choice between
>> >> dropping the port or keeping the port, but with slightly less
>> >> optimization.  THe latter seems like a better choice to me.
>> > 
>> > True.  Then again, the added work of creating the pattern pairs is
>> > modest.  With define_subst, much of the work can be automated.
>> The patterns and support to handle optimization can be added after
>the
>> basic conversion is done.  In fact, that's precisely how I'd approach
>it.
>
>Yeah, but a type #2 conversion is more than that; it makes it harder to
>do a type #1 conversion later than if you started with doing just that.
>Of course it is better than totally dropping a target.  Some
>coordination
>would be useful.
>
>OTOH, a type #2 conversion seems easy enough that maybe we can just
>pull
>that off for *all* targets for GCC 10, and actually remove CC0 already?

That was exactly my thinking... 

>> > For pdp11, I found this to be the case; the hard part was to learn
>> > what is needed, and for that the Wiki ends up a big help.  Also,
>> > pdp11 is harder than most because it has two CC registers (one for
>> > float ops, one for the rest).  I don't know all the others, but for
>> > example VAX only has one, and I'm pretty sure the same applies to
>> > m68k.
>> m68k is like pdp11 in this regard.  Two condition code registers, one
>in
>> the main processor and another for the 68881 FP unit.
>
>I think the main difficulty with m68k is that it is a pretty big
>target.
>
>
>Segher

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