On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 4:40 AM, Martin Sebor <mse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/07/2017 03:48 PM, Jeff Law wrote:
>>
>> On 12/07/2017 03:38 PM, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>>
>>>> So I think that's the final ack on this series.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks to both of you, really appreciate it!
>>
>> Sorry it took so long.
>>
>>>
>>>> Richard S. can you confirm?  I fully expect the trunk has moved some
>>>> and the patches will need adjustments -- consider adjustments which
>>>> work in a manner similar to the patches to date pre-approved.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, that's now all of the poly_int patches.  I still owe you replies
>>> to some of them -- I'll get to that as soon as I can.
>>
>> NP.  I don't think any of the questions were all that significant.
>> Those which were I think you already responded to.
>
>
> I am disappointed that the no-op ctor issue hasn't been adequately
> addressed.  No numbers were presented as to the difference it makes
> to have the ctor do the expected thing (i.e., initialize the object).
> In my view, the choice seems arbitrarily in favor of a hypothetical
> performance improvement at -O0 without regard to the impact on
> correctness.  We have recently seen the adverse effects of similar
> choices in other areas: the hash table insertion[*] and the related
> offset_int initialization.

As were coming from a C code base not initializing stuff is what I expect.
I'm really surprised to see lot of default initialization done in places
where it only hurts compile-time (of GCC at least where we need to
optimize that away).

Richard.

> Martin
>
> [*] https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=82977
>
> PS To be clear, the numbers I asked for were those showing
> the difference between a no-op ctor and one that initializes
> the object to some determinate state, whatever that is.  IIUC
> the numbers in the following post show the aggregate slowdown
> for many or most of the changes in the series, not just
> the ctor.  If the numbers were significant, I suggested
> a solution to explicitly request a non-op ctor to make
> the default safe and eliminate the overhead where it mattered.
>
> https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2017-11/msg01028.html

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