On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:28 PM, NightStrike <nightstr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 3:55 AM, Bin.Cheng <amker.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:28 PM, NightStrike <nightstr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Bin Cheng <bin.ch...@arm.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> This patch removes support for -funsafe-loop-optimizations, as well as 
>>>> -Wunsafe-loop-optimizations.  By its name, this option does unsafe 
>>>> optimizations by assuming all loops must terminate and doesn't wrap.  
>>>> Unfortunately, it's not as useful as expected because:
>>>> 1) Simply assuming loop must terminate isn't enough.  What we really want 
>>>> is to analyze scalar evolution and loop niter bound under such 
>>>> assumptions.  This option does nothing in this aspect.
>>>> 2) IIRC, this option generates bogus code for some common programs, that's 
>>>> why it's disabled by default even at Ofast level.
>>>>
>>>> After I sent patches handling possible infinite loops in both (scev/niter) 
>>>> analyzer and vectorizer, it's a natural step to remove such options in 
>>>> GCC.  This patch does so by deleting code for -funsafe-loop-optimizations, 
>>>> as well as -Wunsafe-loop-optimizations.  It also deletes the two now 
>>>> useless tests, while the option interface is preserved for backward 
>>>> compatibility purpose.
>>>
>>> There are a number of bugs opened against those options, including one
>>> that I just opened rather recently:
>>>
>>> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=71769
>>>
>>> but some go back far, in this case 9 years:
>>>
>>> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=34114
>>>
>>> If you are going to remove the options, you should address open bugs
>>> related to those options.
>> Hi,
>> Thanks for pointing me to these PRs, I will have a look at them.
>
> I only highlighted two PRs, I was suggesting that you look for all of them.
>
>> IMHO, the old one reports weakness in loop niter analyzer, the issue
>> exists whether I remove unsafe-loop-optimization or not.  The new one
>> is a little bit trickier, I will put some comments on PR, and again,
>> the issue (if it is) is in niter analyzer which has nothing to do with
>> the option really.
>
> Well, one thing to note is that the warning is an easy way to get a
> notice of a possible missed optimization (and I have many more
> occurrences of it in a particular code base that I use).  If the
> warning is highlighted potential issues that aren't due to the -f
> option but are issues nonetheless, and we remove the warning, then how
> should I go about finding these missed opportunities in the future?
> Is there a different mechanism that does the same thing?
Hmm, good point, I will iterate the patch to see if I can only remove
-funsafe-loop-optimizations, while keep -Wunsafe-loop-optimizations.

Thanks,
bin

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