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From: Arvind Narrain
Date: 22 March 2012 04:11

Minutes of proceedings dated 21.03.12
in Suresh Kumar Koushal v. Naz Foundation

Attorney General – I have taken
specific instructions and can clarify the position of the
government. The Government accepts the correctness of the decision as
far as the decriminalisation of consenting sex between adults is
concerned. Section 377 is a pre-constitutional enactment and the
basis of the view is an expansive view of Article 14 and 21. It
violates Article 14 because it exposes a particular class of people
to a kind of discrimination. That part of the order which
decriminalizes private sexual acts between adults in private we do
not challenge. This is the stand of the Ministry of Home Affairs. The
brief was sent to the ASG, there was no communication between him and the
MHA. He argued the same position as was taken before the Delhi
High Court. When the MHA came to know, they clarified that this was
not the position.
When asked as to how had their position
changed in the Supreme Court as compared to the Delhi High Court ,
the Attorney General said that, the government also learns and post
the judgment, there was subsequent enlightenment.
There were more questions from the
Bench about what were the sexual acts covered by Section 377 and how
was it violative of Article 14 and 21 especially when it was not
applicable to homosexuals ..

Mr Desai continued his arguments
Section 377 is cast in the widest
possible terms the language is whoever and includes homosexuals and
heterosexuals. The word carnal intercourse includes all physical
relationships which result in pleasure. The word intercourse implies
two bodies joining for pleasure. It is not confined to anal sex also
includes oral sex as well as sex using the hand as per
interpretations of the courts.
The phrase against the order of nature
includes contraception as well as oral sex and anal sex within the
marital relationship. He read out an Outlook survey which
communicates that oral sex is a practice in 37 % of the population
The Bench: We do not go by media
reports and media surveys
AD: the purpose is not to assert that
there are 37% the numbers may vary, but just to say that this is a
practice which we cannot pretend does not exist.

Attorney General is asked by J. M.

What is the sexual act under Section
377 ? who is the accused and who is the complainant if the act
happens in private ? Who is the victim ?

AG- State can view certain actions as
illegal and offensive. Privacy is good up to a point. The HC judgment
is a development of the law.
Bench- How is homosexuality a minority?
Section 377 has nothing to do with a minority.
AG- The stand of the Union of India is
clear, there is no appeal, we accept the reason of the High Court
that consenting sex between adults in private is not an offence.

Ashok Desai continues : As long as the
law applies to same sex relationships in private it violates privacy,
dignity. The older view of the Supreme Court was that procedure
established by law had to be tested only on Article 21 and Article 21
was an island by itself. This has been cited by the other side.
Further a procedure prescribed was enough
However this is not the correct
position. If the law of Henry VIII prescribes punishment by putting a
person in boiling oil that would be valid as a procedure is
prescribed. This was the view taken by the Court prior to Menaka
Gandhi.
However the three parts of Gopalan were
knocked out by Menaka Gandhi
1. Article of Fundamental rights are not islands by themselves
2. Procedure has to be a fair procedure
3. Due process concept was added and the judges transformed what was
intended by the Constituent Assembly.

Section 377 violates dignity, privacy
and personal liberty. It is clear that any infraction must be tested
on all aspects. A law affecting personal liberty must be tested on 14
and 19 as well. No article in the constitution is an island by
itself. As Menaka Gandhi notes, courts must expand the reach and
ambit of Fundamental rights and not attenuate their meaning.
>From Menaka Gandhi to Sucheta Srivatsva
( right of disabled person to choose to procreate or not to
procreate) we have seen an incremental expansion of rights in this
area. We are also on an educational curve. The bar and the bench
participate in the same process of learning. Section 377 curtails a
persons liberty to be himself.
Article 21 includes the freedom to form
consensual relationships and the liberty to live in one's own country
without fear of criminalisation.

The right to privacy has been extended
from freedom from surveillance visits. In Kharak Singh, Subbarao J.
said privacy is part of personal liberty and includes the freedom to
be free from psychological restraint. It is the creation of
conditions for freedom. A persons home is his castle.

Both Matthew J. in Gobind and Subbarao
J. in Kharak Singh expanded our own understanding of personal liberty
to not only what has been to what may be . Our judges have created a
right to privacy and respect for personal autonomy.

The right to privacy has been
elaborated in a series of US decisions
Girswold – right of married couples
to use contraception
Eisenstadt- right of unmarried couples
to use contraception
Roe v. Wade, right to abortion
Planned Parenthood, right to abortion
lawrence v. texas,

Sexual identity and the right to form
sexual relationships form an inalienable part of Article 21. There
are enough indications
Gobind – right to privacy and
intimacy
PUCL and Selvi elaborate the notion of
privacy of the body.

Right to privacy is entrenched in
international law. Article 17 of the ICCPR. Also refers to Dudgeon
decision

This case would have been difficult to
argue fifty years ago, society has changed since then.

Bench- Society was different even
before 1860 if one looks at the temples etc in India. Why go outside
India ? The judgment of the Delhi High Court is about same sex
relationships but the law is about acts.

Mr. Desai: This law is also about
marital relationships.

Singhvi J. We have struggled with this
for three weeks. I read one story ( From Same Sex love in India)
There are a variety of authors/poets who show that same sex
attraction was natural. Relationships /intimate
relationships/physical relationships all within our country. Now we
see it only as sexual intercourse. This is a perversion. Somebody
thrust this provision on Indian society. Parliament has had no time
to reconsider this issue.
Do you know the story of Karna and how
he was born and how was Ayappa was born ? In mythology in
Urdu/Sanskrit these stories continue. It was denounced by the
British. It is only after the British that we say it is wrong.

We dont need to go abroad ( when the
National Coalition judgment was mentioned), our jurisprudence is wide
enough.

Mr. Desai: The pleadings are wide
enough to encompass both homosexuals and heterosexuals. ….

If I have to sum up my pleadings in a
sutra it would be that the police must stop at the bedroom door.

Arguements on Article 15 and Article
14...

Ends by quoting Pratap Bhanu Mehta

There come moments in the life of a
nation when it has to confront its deepest prejudices and fears in
the mirror of its constitutional morality. The Delhi high court’s
judgment in Naz Foundation vs Union of India, decriminalising
private, adult, consensual homosexual acts, does just that. The
judgment is a powerful example of judicial craftsmanship. It is,
unusually amongst recent judgments that are constitutionally
significant, clear and precise. It embodies the right combination of
technical rigour in thinking about the law, with a persuasive vision
of the deepest values those laws embody.

Mr Siddharth Lutra on behalf of
Nivedita menon and other academics

The origins of Section 377 can be
traced back to a notion of sin which is linked to one religious
tradition. This notion of sin becomes a part of the secular law in
England. This same notion becomes a part of the Indian law through
the Code of Macaulay.
Criminal law is part of a state's
decision to ensure order in society. The proscription of an act is
the highest expression of the law. Can you impose this viewpoint from
a religious framework on our society.
My argument is not against any one
religion but a more general point that the imposition of the
viewpoint of a religion on all through criminal law would be against
secularism ( S.R. Bommai's case)

Singhvi J: Over centuries one kind of
affection has been the accepted norm in society in the east, west,
north and south

AG: In Geneva I was asked by the
Scandanavian countries as to what is your approach to the question
of homosexuality. I did some research and found out that in England
in the 19 century there was a repression of sexual mores. Oscar Wilde
is the best example. People ran away from England and took up
positions in the army. To protect their own soldiers the British
enacted Section 377 In a puritanical England it was unthinkable that
men have relationships with men, that women with women. Affection
between the sexes was unthinkable. Any intercourse other than peno
vaginal was unthinkable.

Bench: After 1950 Article 372 allowed
pre colonial laws to continue subject to Article 13(1). So the
question is to what extent they will become void?
Societal
attitude changes, society accepts relationships not traditionally
accepted. Section 377 was imposed upon us. We did not have this
notion.

AG: There is an attitudnal change in
society. It accepts human relationships not just sexual
relationships. The question is whether society is ready. The offence
reflects society.

Mukhpadhyay J. We never used to discuss
this, now we are openly discussing in court.

Singhvi J. There was this sexual
activity even before 1860 maybe since man became civilized or maybe
even before that. If for centuries this kind of activity has been
happening, how can it be against the order of nature as thought of by
the church of England. Since parliament is the voice of the people,
why has it not sought fit to reform the law ?

AG: I have three answers
1. Some IPC provisions may have outlived their utility. eg. Offences
against coins not relevant now
2. A section in society opposes this. They dont like to see gays in streets
. They have a right to their opinion
3. There is no momentum for parties to take up this matter

Singhvi J: Parades there are fashion
parades now not more than ten years ago they began. Fashion parades
like coco cola will become a part of even village life.

1. J. : They may be marching in urban areas but may be a majority in rural
areas
AG:. Our own society is in the throes of change. It has opened up. Where it
will take us, there is no answer. This case has been decided on a question
of Fundamental rights. The task is more difficult. The extension by the
courts of the order of nature is strange as being everything which does not
lead to conception.

Singhvi J. There
should be a debate in an appropriate forum. In the High Court two
judges decide, here again two judges will decide. How can two people
decide what would affect the entire society.

AG: Your Lordship
means that one takes a viewpoint without full debate.

MJ. : Would breast feeding come within the meaning of carnal intercourse,
what is carnal intercourse ?

Mr. Lutra continues:
Citing an artilce by Kirby J. the anti sodomy laws were the least lovely
colonial export and Section 377 travels to all the colonies.

Mr. Dayan Krishnan for the mental
health professionals

Bench: Were you a party before the HC

DK: No, but your Lordship has allowed
the intervention. I want to make two points take only ten minutes.
Homosexuality as per current medical opinion DSM IV and ICD 10 is not
a disease and hence a normal variant of sexuality.

Bench: We do not want to know if this
is or not a disease. Are there sexologists among your doctors

DK. The APA takes the position that
homsexuality is not a disease

Bench: Section 377 is not about
homosexuals. This is to misunderstand the issue.

DK. There are guidelines by the
American Psychological Association which refer to Lesbian, gay and
bisexual persons

Bench: Same sex , same sex same sex ,
what about heterosexuals ?

Bench: The number of homosexuals in
America are …. , one third of the population is gay. And the number
is rising. Fortunately the number as per NACO is only 22 lakhs in
India.

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