---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bayle Shanks <bsha...@ucsd.edu>
Date: Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: Using Parliament Module
To: mellowcellofel...@gmail.com
Cc: Dana Dahlstrom <d...@cs.ucsd.edu>


Hi Joshua,

I'm excited to hear that someone is thinking of using the project. In
fact, Dana and I always thought there should be a web-frontend, but
never got around to writing it outselves, so it
is great to hear that someone wants to make one.
Wow, I know another person named Joshua Gardner. You must not be him,
though, as he doesn't live in Utah.

btw, where did you find my hotmail email address? I rarely ever check
it, so I should change the reference you followed to point to a better
address (generally, I put my current email address on my website,
http://bayleshanks.com, so if bsha...@ucsd.edu stops working, you can look
there).

Btw, Parliament is a joint project b/t dana dahlstrom (who is
copied on this email, although he may be pretty busy right now and for
the next month b/c he is about to go on a trip) and myself; I copied dana.


> Seeing as that project seems to be more or less abandoned, I was
> wondering if you wouldn't mind, after at least a demo of usage,
> transfering ownership of the project to me. I would set it up as a

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "transfer the project" -- in any
case Dana and I would have to talk first. The
project is already GPL, so you don't need a transfer in order to use
it if your project is GPL. We'd probably be down with allowing you to
use it under the Affero
GPL too (but I'd have to ask Dana). Also, perhaps we could add you as an
admin to the Parliament project on Soureforge.


> Actually, what would be most helpful if you would join my project
> Gavel. I'm not a very experienced programmer (have one semester of
> college in anything computer science, though I've been tinkering and
> hacking with Python for two years and wrote my first program when I
> was 10), so having some guidance would be nice. I'm planning on
> writing it with the Django (or TurboGears if that can be determined to
> be better) web framework. I have most of my ideas written down on a
> wiki on my homeserver (http://gavel.scrapper-site.net/wiki/).

I'd love to help with Gavel, but I don't know if I'll have much spare
time in the mid-future. If you don't mind such a half-hearted committment,
I'll join.

Btw, when I looked into the web frameworks, it seemed to me that Pylons was
nice. It's up to you, though. I probably don't have any more programming
experience than you.



> wondering if you wouldn't mind, after at least a demo of usage,

After downloading the Parliament package from sourceforge, did you see
the file doc/for_programmers/tourThroughASession.txt?

I guess we should have mentioned at the beginning of that file that
before that stuff will work, you must compile the rule file, and then,
within Python, you must import Parliament. After
untaring the package, and cd-ing into its directory, do


./compileRuleFile.py ruleFiles/rro_default.txt


to compile the rule file. Now start Python and execute the command:


import Parliament


after this you can do the commands in the rest of
tourThroughASession.txt and I think they should work.



i'm away for the weekend, btw.

have a good day,
 bayle





> Hello
>
> I've got a project I'm hatching that is a web-based Parliamentary
> Procedure management application. After some googling I came across
> your Parliament python module, and after downloading (I think I
> downloaded the tarball, not the CVS) I couldn't quite get it to work.
>
> I'm not really interested in Meeting Helper but in the Python library.
> If you could give me some pointers that'd be much appreciated.
>
> Seeing as that project seems to be more or less abandoned, I was
> wondering if you wouldn't mind, after at least a demo of usage,
> transfering ownership of the project to me. I would set it up as a
> sub-project of my project (https://launchpad.net/gavel) and work from
> there. I like how it allows writing your own rules with a custom file
> format, very useful for eventually porting Gavel to rulesets besides
> Roberts Rules and languages besides English.
>
> Actually, what would be most helpful if you would join my project
> Gavel. I'm not a very experienced programmer (have one semester of
> college in anything computer science, though I've been tinkering and
> hacking with Python for two years and wrote my first program when I
> was 10), so having some guidance would be nice. I'm planning on
> writing it with the Django (or TurboGears if that can be determined to
> be better) web framework. I have most of my ideas written down on a
> wiki on my homeserver (http://gavel.scrapper-site.net/wiki/).
>
> Thank you,
>
> -Josh
>
> --
> Society loses the value of things which are uselessly destroyed.
> --Frederick Bastiat
>
> ICBM Address
> Latitude:  41=B027'33.20"N
> Longitude: 112=B0 2'39.88"W
> Don't Shoot!

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-- 
Society loses the value of things which are uselessly destroyed.
--Frederick Bastiat

ICBM Address
Latitude:  41°27'33.20"N
Longitude: 112° 2'39.88"W
Don't Shoot!

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