Hi, While I had, and still do, have respect for the guy, I think that has been his biggest problem. While I have only become something of a programmer over the last few months, and that only with BGT, I can say that I appreciate the technical standpoint Thomas is coming from here. But he does tend to tak his opinions and make them facts most of the time...had that not been the case, I wonder how this might have worked out differently.
Best Regards, Hayden -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Willem Venter Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:46 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming elitists was: Re: Jeremy's incredible programming speed Ryan, I remember that time. If you recall I was one of those who backed you up too. In the end, Thomas admitted he was biest toward python and no insults and name calling was required, just reason and statement of fact. On 7/20/11, Ryan Strunk <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Willem, > I've also had to defend my stance on Python with Tom, and while I > understand the need for diplomacy, I think there's also something to > be said for mis-information. My Python response became necessary > because Tom was telling aspiring programmers that Python was not a > viable language. So much of his opinion was being stated as fact, and > those interested in learning were taking it as such. It's hard not to > be offended when, amongst a small community of developers, one of > those self-same developers feels the need to criticize his peers. It's > not like this market has much competition, after all. > Tom stated in his first response to Che that he doesn't understand why > people always mischaracterize what he says. If several people seem to > take his words in the wrong light, perhaps he needs to reflect on that > before getting upset at others for not understanding him. > > On 7/20/11, Willem <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi all. >> Firstly, a lot of this nonsense could have been avoided with a little >> common sense and a lot less self important attitudes. Yes, Thomas did >> not always express himself diplomaticly enough, but also some people >> needled him repeatedly until he snapped. Saying this, an opinion is just >> that, an opinion and thomas had no right forcing his on people. >> >> I think people like Che and to a lesser extend Jeremy were over >> sensitive about the whole vb issue. Unnecisary atacking of people won't >> change their mind and helps nothing in the end. Thomas's email was >> totally uncalled for too and was really childish, but he wasn't the only >> one. >> >> I hope we can all learn to ignore the people or opinions we don't like. >> If you can't convince someone with reason, nothing will change their >> mind. There is something like a block sender list, after all. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [email protected]. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [email protected]. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to [email protected]. > --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [email protected]. ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3775 - Release Date: 07/19/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to [email protected].
