yeah I know.
I wander apart from making opensource readers if there is anyway to get prices 
to go down on software.
Its rather hefty and although I do aggree that its vary specialised and high 
quality its to expencive for a load of us to get without funding.
Even the upgrades cost a load.
At 12:25 a.m. 24/05/2007, you wrote:
>  I agree that some accessible software is very expensive, but you have to 
>consider the market this software is selling to and the complexity of the 
>software itself.
>  If Windows XP were only sold to the blind for example, it would cost 
>several thousand dollars and frankly it would never happen as it would be a 
>money loser for the company producing it.
>  I for one am grateful that there are quality screenreaders out there for 
>us at all, considering the heavy amount of time invested in writing this 
>stuff.
>  Later,
>  Che
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Talksina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:50 AM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Piracy of accessible software
>
>
>> well,
>> not to open a flame about this, but, talking about other
>> blind-related software, they are really really really too expensive!
>> I do not talk about games, that cost maximum 40 euro. And, that, for
>> example, a user wanting to play a game, can use his/her money to buy
>> the game, instead of... buying cigarettes, or something else that is
>> damaging his health.
>> But what, in my opinion, is too expensive, are other kind of
>> softwares. Think about Jaws, Window-Eyes, Talks or MobileSpeak for
>> mobile phones, Sapi5 synths (such as Loquendo)...
>> Your discussion is valid for games, or small softwares (such as
>> VoiceEmotion or PowerGramo, the voip assistants), goldwave, sound
>> forge and so on
>> But you lie to yourself if you say that you wouldn't desire to have
>> free access to your computer or mobile phone, or, at least, to spend
>> less money! Not to have to spend the double price because we are
>> blind, for a device which is sold to sighted people with an accessible 
>> price
>> Yes, they could develop something free in that case, too. There is a
>> tool called NVDA for computers, and a Sapi5 called eSpeak, not high
>> quality but open source and free
>> but not for mobile phones
>> In general, I am against software piracy, as it damages the
>> alternative free or low-cost software, but I do not lie to myself:
>> most of softwares we NEED, are a real theft.
>> Think about what happened on eMule 2 years ago
>> An anonymous user, having the machine on 24 hours a day, started to
>> distribute a file called "nokia talks 2.xx IMEI key generator", which
>> just contained an executable wich, once launched, destroyed all
>> computer data: everything in hard disk, internal or external or
>> partitions, was removed
>> There is no possibility to get any proof on that, but many people
>> thought (and think) this comes from Nuance, Talks producer, but
>> writing this on the Internet, as there are no proof, could cause
>> problems. So, as we say in Italy, "incarta e porta a casa". That is,
>> literally translated, pack it and take it home. It means, take it as it is
>>
>>
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