Hi John,

Well, Debian stable doesn't always keep up with Gnome releases so
chances are likely you were dealing with a much older Gnome release
were accessibility wasn't as good as it is today. Some of the early
releases like Gnome 3.0 and Gnome 3.2 were absolutely terrible
accessibility wise. It wasn't until Gnome 3.4.2 that accessibility
took a turn for the better and Gnome 3.8 is a bare minimum as far as I
am concerned for a VI Linux user wanting to use Gnome with decent
accessibility. However, if you really want good access Gnome 3.12 with
Orca 3.12 is really where the access is these days in terms of
graphical user interfaces.

However, this is the primary problem with Linux for VI users as I see
it. A lot of Windows users come to Linux not knowing squat about the
OS and through simple ignorance and lack of experience may choose one
of the less accessible distributions or install older components where
access has improved in later versions not knowing there are better
alternatives. They try to use it, find it isn't up to Windows
standards, and make a blanket decision that access on Linux sucks
based on their limited experience. Problem is they need to read a few
FAQs, talk to some experts, and find out if their poor experience is
consistent with more experienced users or they just flat out chose the
wrong distribution, version of the desktop, whatever. So my advice to
Windows users wanting to try Linux be absolutely certain what
distribution and desktop version you are using before making a
decision about its accessibility status because things aren't cut and
dry. Good access on Linux depends on a lot of different factors from
what distribution you use, what versions of software are used, and
weather or not there are known workarounds etc. Far too many
unsuspecting newbies install Linux expecting things to just work out
of the box like Windows and when that doesn't happen they get mad,
frustrated, or just too lazy to figure it out due in large part to
lack of knowledge what they are dealing with.

The sad part of it is that Linux is and can be a fairly decent OS. It
just requires a bit more user know-how to get working the way it
should. Some distributions are easier to do that with than others.

Cheers!


On 10/26/14, john <[email protected]> wrote:
> I was using the version of gnome that came with debian 7.2 at the time. Not
>
> sure exactly which one that is, but I had a miserable time with it.
>
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