Here is the Intel Core i7 that is in the current high-end MacBook Air: http://ark.intel.com/products/75114/ Notice that it costs roughly US$ 450. I call that premium. Most CPUs in rival ultrabooks sit $50 to $150 below that mark.
-----Original Message----- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dallas O'Brien Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 15:07 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mac versus windows sales plus iOS question hi. erm, actually, premium hardware? really? .... lol. they give you a machine that has a dual core, at double the price of a quad core windows computer. lol. just look at my Toshiba machine I have here. quad core core i7, 2.4 GHZ, up to 3.4 GHZ turbo boost. 8 GB ram, and a 1 TB HDD with I think 8 or 16 GB SSD cashing. blue ray drive, TV tuner card, 4 USB3 ports, HDMI port, audio jacks, and a set of speakers that shame apple's speakers on almost all but an iMac. and it's still a laptop. rofl. to get anything even approaching this level, in a mac, would be around the 2500 to 3000 mark. how much did I pay for this, running windows 8? .... 1000 bucks. Australian. so no, premium hardware, is not something you can claim, apple. lol. the only thing that is premium, is the casing, track pad, and screens. all else, apple's computers don't come close to windows machines, and certainly not for the prices they want. and yep, unless they bring the prices down, even a couple more hundred, they won't start being a main choice for most buyers when going shopping for a new computer. of course, as blind users of technology, we are more willing to throw money at somebody to make life easier for us. but even we have a limit as to how much we are willing to throw around. specially as now, you can't claim the hole, a mac is cheaper then a windows machine and jaws. sure, if you want to use jaws, go ahead. but there are now extremely good options like NVDA, which now negate those arguments. the advantages to the mac, however, is the fact that voiceover works all the way through, even while clean installing. and what's more, is that apple has one other advantage over a windows computer. lets say you have a new mac, with no optical disk drive. no USB drive with a copy of the OS on it, and no way to recover the system. now lets say something happens to your installation, and it's messed up. you need to run a recovery, / reinstall it. but how are you going to do this? ... well, on windows, you must, and I mean, must, have a backup made of your recovery drive. lets say that something has happened to your recovery drive! ... most people would say, well, you're going to have to send it off to have it repaired. now, in the case of a windows machine, you're probably right. at least, without going and buying a new copy of windows to install and all that. now, in the mac's case, ..... nope. you don't have to. if you boot in to the recovery mode, with, I think it's command r, while starting the machine up, the firmware on the computer, can go out, and search apple's server, and download a copy of the OS that came with your machine, and download it, and install it fresh, creating a recovery partition in the process! cool, huh? but not worth 3 times the cost. lol. they are cool, and have some kinda cool features, but a lot more needs to be taken in to count if you are going to buy a mac. for example. are you going to want to boot camp / VM windows? that's more money needed to be spent, for a new copy of windows. and it has to be a full disk, not an upgrade disk. unless it's windows 8, which works a little different. ok, anyways, I'm off to blow things up, or shoot them, or do something. lol. regards: Dallas On 14/12/2013, Thomas Ward <thomasward1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dallas, > > You are absolutely right about cost. I know that Apple uses premium > hardware in their Mac's, but the average person simply does not care > about that. Most people, myself included, are not going to pay $1,200 > or more for a Mac when they can get an HP, 'Toshiba, Del, etc for half > that from Walmart. It just isn't going to happen. > > Apple is also way out of line with there iPads and iPhones too. Just > the other day I needed a new charger for my phone. I could get a > universal charger that works for Android for $14. Turns out one for an > Apple iPhone was $35. What kind of dope is Apple smoking when they > think the average user will pay double for their stuff? > > I know that there are certainly groups of people who do buy iPhones, > iPads, and Macs to be sure, but just from looking at general research > most people buy Windows PCs or Android phones because Apple costs way > too much for the average person to buy. Until Apple lowers the cost of > their PC and mobile devices they will always be a minority share of > the market no matter how good and reliable they are. > > Cheers! > > > On 12/14/13, Dallas O'Brien <dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> hi. a few things here. yes, you are correct che. mac's are nothing, >> compared to windows. mac's alone, make up about 50 to 70 million >> computers in the world today. windows makes up over 1.5 billion, >> that's billion with a B for bravo. lol. so mac's are nothing to >> windows. and unless apple brings their prices down, they will never >> ever be close to a windows based machine, simply because i can buy a >> windows computer, that has the same basic internal capabilities as a >> macbook, for a third of the price. and the every day user, isn't >> going to spend 3 times the cost, or more. they can't afford it these days. >> it's mostly rich kids, and people who have a bit of money to throw at >> a problem that buy macs. the every day user just can't afford that >> price premium. hell, the prices of iPads and iPhones is just stupid >> for that matter. >> >> note, using the turm pc for only a windows based computer isn't >> particularly correct, as mac's are PC's as well. just thought i'd >> throw that in, as in terms of what intel call a pc, a mac is one as >> well. >> and yeah, i can imagine that coding on the mac is ... interesting, to >> say the least. lol. hell, just doing every day functions on a mac, >> are a combination of contorsionism, and joint popping acrobatics. ahaha. >> never the less, it's good to see some games coming out on the mac. >> but it will never be the main platform. the ratio of windows to mac >> is too great. it's not affordable for a developer to work on some >> games, for the mac, compared to for windows. >> well, good luck with your work che. looking forward to getting my >> paws on a copy of the RR V2. >> regards: >> Dallas > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the > list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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