Hi Mike,

Hope you don't mind me asking, but I used to play the final fantasy games on
my playstation  and they are some of my favourite main stream games, but the
ones I have played have always been very text heavy with battle menus and
most character speech has been text to.  you said you played final fantasy x
though , do you still play  now  and have you found it to be in anyway
accessible?

Paul 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gamers [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Wassel
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:11 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what will it
take for this community to learn?

Yes sports games are possible. But answer me this: How do you play racing
games?  How do you know where to turn or if you're going the wrong way?
Rockband I understand, it's a great game and I like playing it.  I guess my
point is that we can't play more of the current things if that makes sense.
Like COD or Resident Evil.  That's why I like playing games like Final
Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts and Mass Effect (to a degree).  I guess you could
play third person shooters if you do what I do and use a lock-on system or
use sound cues which is how I play them, ut FPS's are, I think, out
completely.  I'm not trying to make it sound like totals can't, I'm really
just curious.
Mike.

On Jun 24, 2013, at 11:00 PM, lenron brown <[email protected]> wrote:

> very true I love racing games and many others on my x box 360 it 
> sometimes just takes practice
> 
> On 6/24/13, Clement Chou <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Let's just say that as a total we've been able to play more games 
>> than most
>> 
>> people expect... even my friends with low vision. Fighting games are 
>> probaqbly boring only because you play against the computer... it's 
>> much more stimulating to play against humans and delve into the meet 
>> of the game
>> 
>> which is usually more mental. Street Fighter IV, for example, has 
>> pretty simple mechanics. But those mechanics build into longer combos 
>> and strategy
>> 
>> that can't be found in any other genre. But totals can play the 
>> majority of
>> 
>> hack n slashes to at least a certain degree. Many people are able to 
>> play Ninja gaiden 3 without issue and are already close to beating 
>> the game, and
>> 
>> games such as Rock Band and some sports games are also playable. But 
>> that's
>> 
>> a whole other topic. lol
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Wassel" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?
>> 
>> 
>>> I am not about to read 40 messages, so I will just comment on this 
>>> first one.  I agree with Thomas on his points.  While I don't play 
>>> many audio games mainly because I don't care for the content when I 
>>> have other games on my ps2/ps3 that I play more, I see it all the 
>>> time with this community that people aren't happy, that they bitch 
>>> and moan about keys/cracks  of games all the time after a game is 
>>> released, and even after it's been released.  However, you can't put 
>>> the blind community at 100% fault.  The same thing goes on with 
>>> sighted gamers.  But since we are a relatively smaller community it 
>>> hits a lot harder.  If you don't have a thick skin and
>>> 
>>> can just let comments roll off, you're going to quit.  This is why I 
>>> don't
>>> 
>>> develop.  One reason is because I don't have the time to do it, the 
>>> other reason is if  I did and started to get a whole lot of 
>>> complaints, I know I'd explode on somebody.
>>> I've said it before.  These debs go through a lot of work to create 
>>> a game
>>> 
>>> for everyone to enjoy.  It takes a while to code and find bugs and 
>>> get rid
>>> 
>>> of them.  I'm glad Jeremy has not quit his work because right now, 
>>> he's the only one that is making modern games for us.  If he wasn't 
>>> here, I doubt that TRTR would've been made or any of the other games 
>>> that are starting to come out.  The same thing happened with 
>>> Entombed.  That was the closest that I've ever seen an audio game 
>>> come to final fantasy.  I'd
>>> 
>>> like to see more like that, however I know that that starts to get 
>>> harder
>>> 
>>> because with more complex things you want happening, the more code 
>>> you need to put in/the more time you need to put into the game.
>>> Another person who has been working with this for a while is Dentin.  
>>> He's
>>> 
>>> actually put in code for us to make Alter better and easier to play.  
>>> Not
>>> 
>>> only does he put up with sighted people bitching at him because 
>>> equipment
>>> 
>>> gets dented or things are really hard, but he's putting up with the 
>>> blind
>>> 
>>> community complaining when mush-z doesn't work.  Hopefully most of 
>>> those messages get sent to the right channel but who knows.
>>> I don't know if I'll read this thread after I send this message.  
>>> But I'll
>>> 
>>> repeat what I said at the beginning of this reply.  While we are a 
>>> smaller
>>> 
>>> community, we can not put all the blame on the blind people.  This 
>>> kind of
>>> 
>>> thing happens on a much larger scale with the sighted players.  
>>> However, if we keep this up pretty soon you're going to have no one 
>>> left who wants
>>> 
>>> to make games for the blind and then you all will start complaining 
>>> about
>>> 
>>> how you all have nothing that matches up with what todays consoles have.
>>> And whose fault will that be but your own?  Not everyone can play 
>>> todays games on the ps3 or Xbox360.  I know I'm having trouble with 
>>> the little amount of vision that I have.  It's almost impossible for 
>>> me to play anything new that comes out because the print is to small 
>>> for me to read or I can't see what is on the screen.  I know it's 
>>> way harder if not completely impossible for totals to play anything 
>>> but fighting games which
>>> 
>>> I can not stand whatsoever.  They just bore me after about 15 
>>> minutes.  As
>>> 
>>> I said, keep it up and see what happens.
>>> Mike.
>> 
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