It's nor really the attitude of the developers of games for the blind computer user that I blame. They either do, or they don't gear their business to what will sell and what will sell in the future. They, by being the middle man, are stuck between a rock and a hard place. I think that Dark's intent at the start of this thread was to see if there is a way to nudge the rock to be gradually moved in the right direction from the point of view of the people playing the games that they have been playing and enjoying for years. To no longer support the games we have accumulated over the years because they run on old systems is terrible from our point of view, and I do understand the need for developers to develop for what is not only down the road but is already around us. But, from the point of most blind gamers, it stinks. A new machine is a good solution if you can get one, but there is the OS to consider. If you cannot use it, it's not a good option for you regardless of how good it may be.

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Hi Dark,

it sounds as if you are in essence holding developers in this community somehow responsible for what is essentially the computing world in general, moving forward as it normally does.

By saying that audio game developers are saying to the community, 'tough luck' is maybe not the most sensitive / understanding position to share. The time and effort it takes to support older OSs is exponentially more than it would take to develop for just one modern platform / OS.

I'll relate this to my own experience.

having known / worked with Josh now for several years, the time and attention to detail he exhibits as well as the desire to support as many users as possible, regardless of what OS they choose to use is something I've come to really respect about him. So it kind of amazes me when people still feel the devs here are like enemies trying to pull away their beloved accessible games at every opportunity. This just isn't the case.

You must realize that Draconis in particular, would love to have as many titles as possible be available to as many gamers as would like them, and offer the most fun and hassle-free gaming experience possible.

This isn't a case of developers just waiting for the opportunity to pull the rug out from under people.

It takes a whole lot of extra time and effort to support a range of OSs. It's just not as simple as write once, run anywhere, as Thomas has also tried to convey here on many occasions. Does this make sense?…

People in the typical sighted software development world often can base entire careers on developing for one platform and be very good at what they do. this is common. In the blind community though, it seems most people naively expect pretty much every developer whom shows their face to be able to be a wizard at whipping out game after game for every OS past and present on every machine and if they cannot deliver, they're run-down.

I know this seems sort of over-simplified, but just look at the posts here. People may not always come out and say it, (sometimes they do) but there sure can be an awful lot of implication.

anyway, enough of my rant. I do hope this makes some sense and thanks for reading…

Smiles,

Cara :)
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On Apr 30, 2013, at 5:48 AM, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:

Hi trouble.

As I said, I am not aversed to upgrading when it is of bennifit to me, and indeed this is I think the reason most people do not do so. If something ain't broke, why fix it.

i also question your "progress forward" analogy for this reason, since something with a less friendly interface, with inconvenient programs that won't run much older software isn't forwarrd, it's simply different.

My point was that instead of everyone being forced to upgrade and things being lost, or developers saying "well tough luck since we're microsoft has forced us to upgrae" we look at the reasons why! people do not, since contrary to your message, choice to continue using xp is not an irrational one or simply a question of liking one flavour of icecream over another.

As to the xp box, well it is the same hear, however I do know where I can get a reconditioned machine of good quality.

Beware the grue!

Dark.

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