2012/1/20 Michael Großer <michael.gros...@gmx.de>: > Jason Weber wrote: >> 2012/1/19 Thomas Adam <tho...@fvwm.org>: >>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:31:25PM +0100, Michael Großer wrote: >>>> I want an alt-tab behaviour like KDE3: >>> >>> Great. >>> >>> [...] >>> >>>> At first glance, I see these modules: >>>> - WindowList >>>> - FvwmIconMan >>>> - FvwmWinList >>>> - FvwmWindowMenu >>>> >>>> Are there more like them that could be worth of thinking about using >>>> or abusing them? >>> >>> Absolutely not. >>> >>> What you're asking for is so specific it would have to be its own module. >>> >>> -- Thomas Adam >> >> Michael, >> >> Perhaps if you are open minded to tools that might be more effective >> at navigating >> windows than KDE or others do, I would also suggest taking a look at the >> FvwmProxy. It is a bit of a departure from the uncorrelated >> box-in-the-middle paradigm. >> It can handle your (1) and (2), but for (3), the tab order is >> generally spatial, not historical. >> For me, this is far more intuitive, but I can not assert that the same >> would be true for anyone else. >> >> -- Jason Weber >> >> > > You extended my collection of options. Thank you for that! > > I don't know if I want a spatial approach when I use Alt-Tab > (or Win-Tab). Probably not, because I already use a spatial approach > by using 12*12*3 = 432 viewports (pages, desktops - call it how you > want). > > Usually, I have few windows on one page. Mostly one or two. > Sometimes three. When I go somewhere more deeply into detail > than planned, then a page can contain considerably more windows. > Some windows can contain some or a lot of tabs if they are > web-browser windows. In the cases when a page has more (or > considerably more) than one window, I prefer a historical > approach. > > But, I will inspect FvwmProxy during the next years, because > the concept looks interesting. Perhaps I could use it > for an unknown purpose when I gathered experiences with it. > > Today I digged out an old idea from > Tue, 23 Mar 2004 09:00:54 -0800 > from Piotr Zielinski to get an FvwmIconMan when I press Win+Tab > and kill it when I release the Win key: > http://www.mail-archive.com/fvwm@hpc.uh.edu/msg06089.html > > The chances increase that I indeed could get an KDE3 behaviour > during the next days. > > > - Michael - >
You can see illustrated examples of specific features of FvwmProxy at http://www.munra.com/fvwm/fvwmproxy.html If you have a 400x virtual desktop area, perhaps you never need to worry about windows overlapping, but I would be lost in all that space. I couldn't stand any sliding screen edges and just stick to dancing between 6-10 desks with quick-switch key bindings. I could continue on about where I've gone, but the link above might clarify my approach. I follow your logic of the historical approach and suspect that it would have real advantage over an arbitrarily ordered list. But with how well a solid tightly-correlated spatial approach has served me, I don't think historical data would improve my navigation. It would introduce dependencies on state that is longer true versus giving me an optimized view of everything in current state.. -- Jason Weber
