> Yes, which is why I still find xconsole invaluable. :) could you explain this sentence a little bit? :), i mean, how invaluable.
when with gdb, is that mean i should start fvwm with a console rather than kdm. and for expecting the crash, should i start fvwm with gdb every time as you metioned above? > -- Thomas Adam > -- Liu An Institution of modern physics, Shanghai, China