Jeff, trust in The Guardian :P Regards,
--- RootedCON V (2014) - www.rootedcon.es @omarbv 2013/10/28 Jeffrey Walton <[email protected]> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Joel Esler <[email protected]> wrote: > > Obviously they expect you to surrender the info in the sake of simplicity > > and usefulness. > > > > They swear the can't read your stuff: > > http://www.apple.com/apples-commitment-to-customer-privacy/ > :) > > Their own legal department tells us they are not trustworthy. Who do > we believe: their legal department, or their press release? > > Jeff > > > > On Oct 28, 2013, at 03:30 PM, PuNkErX w <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I usually lurk the list but here's my take on it. Using iCloud to sync > > everything is stupid if you care about privacy. Unless you don't mind > all > > your info (especially now that you can sync the keychain....) being out > > there. > > > > As an old Apple "fanboy" Im disgusted but not surprised with the > direction > > they went. Thats why i got out of the Apple work when 10.7 dropped. > > > > I host an old macbook with 10.6 server that has iCal and address book > > services to sync stuff between 10.9 laptop, 10.6 laptop, iphone and ipad. > > It works for what i need but obviously it isnt for everyone. > > > > Im looking at other alternatives for all in one type deals but it seems > > every "cloud" service pretty much sells your info in one shape way or > form. > > > > So you dont need to use icloud at all but it appears you will need a > third > > party server to sync stuff. Yet another step back asswards for the > > industry. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 28, 2013, at 10:43, [email protected] wrote: > > > > The functionality of syncing contacts/calendar is MISSING in > > iTunes...gone...poof...Casper...out of luck....plug in your iDevice on > the > > latest, then check it out...you can sync photos and music, but nothing > > else...it's a bad scene. > > > > On Monday, October 28, 2013 at 8:34 AM, "Joel Esler" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > What happens when you refuse to sign up for iCloud? > > > > <sent from my iCloud account> > > > > -- > > Joel Esler > > > > > > On Oct 28, 2013, at 08:09 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > A warning (disclosure) to you Apple people....if you're planning to sync > > your shiny iDevice with Mavericks, you will be FORCED to use iCloud > (syncing > > from your iDevice to your iPuter is now gone). I suspect this is one of > the > > reasons why Mavericks was a "free" upgrade. Apple probably figured the > $40 > > they'd get from the sale of the OS is less then when they'd get with have > > your calendar and your contacts within easy reach. Per their policy: > > > > What personal information we collect > > > > When you create an Apple ID, register your products, apply for commercial > > credit, purchase a product, download a software update, register for a > class > > at an Apple Retail Store, or participate in an online survey, we may > collect > > a variety of information, including your name, mailing address, phone > > number, email address, contact preferences, and credit card information. > > > > When you share your content with family and friends using Apple products, > > send gift certificates and products, or invite others to join you on > Apple > > forums, Apple may collect the information you provide about those people > > such as name, mailing address, email address, and phone number. > > > > > > How we use your personal information > > > > The personal information we collect allows us to keep you posted on > Apple’s > > latest product announcements, software updates, and upcoming events. It > also > > helps us to improve our services, content, and advertising. > > > > > > Nice not to have choices ;) > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >
_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
